From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jason Molenda To: Bob Manson Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 06:08:00 -0000 Message-id: <20000504131930.B19898@shell17.ba.best.com> References: <200005040412.VAA18910@tristam.juniper.net> X-SW-Source: 2000/msg00468.html On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 09:12:14PM -0700, Bob Manson wrote: > He was no kindly king. He was the Ruler of Evil! Evil, I tell you! > I quaked in fear whenver he typed! It's true, it's all true. Cygnus is actually a training ground for Evil, and after half a dozen years, I had been well trained in the Insufficient Light Side by my master, Stan Shebs, as were the other disciples. As I write this, we are all moving into the Silicon Valley power structure and we will soon issue our demands for one MILLION dollars or we'll bring SV to its knees. Evil is a lost art these days, and it behooves all of us to live it every day. I got a copy of that "ILOVEYOU" worm. Its evilness is so pathetic -- the author showed no pride in workmanship, no true commitment to evil (Oooh, it overwrites your mp3 files, so destructive.) Pathetic! On a slightly serious note, it was the easiest path for me to take to decide and implement (nearly) everything on the sourceware system. It was helpful for really rapid deployment. I think I've written about this in the past, but, in retrospect, it was a mistake to not get more buy-in from Cygnus officially at some point. Back in the summer of '98 it would have been a huge mistake to get marketing et al tied in to sourceware. But the result of doing it on the side, with managers looking the other way when sourceware maintainers have to spend time on it, is not very effective. We should have (or present tense, should) convinced management to pony up for a full time person and hooked it into the rest of the company's organization. Jason From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jason Molenda To: Bob Manson Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:19:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000504131930.B19898@shell17.ba.best.com> References: <200005040412.VAA18910@tristam.juniper.net> X-SW-Source: 2000-q2/msg00161.html Message-ID: <20000504131900.NqAhN4aLP3XA1cDiNPBcZKQvp7jqCtKi8pAEN0XGiIc@z> On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 09:12:14PM -0700, Bob Manson wrote: > He was no kindly king. He was the Ruler of Evil! Evil, I tell you! > I quaked in fear whenver he typed! It's true, it's all true. Cygnus is actually a training ground for Evil, and after half a dozen years, I had been well trained in the Insufficient Light Side by my master, Stan Shebs, as were the other disciples. As I write this, we are all moving into the Silicon Valley power structure and we will soon issue our demands for one MILLION dollars or we'll bring SV to its knees. Evil is a lost art these days, and it behooves all of us to live it every day. I got a copy of that "ILOVEYOU" worm. Its evilness is so pathetic -- the author showed no pride in workmanship, no true commitment to evil (Oooh, it overwrites your mp3 files, so destructive.) Pathetic! On a slightly serious note, it was the easiest path for me to take to decide and implement (nearly) everything on the sourceware system. It was helpful for really rapid deployment. I think I've written about this in the past, but, in retrospect, it was a mistake to not get more buy-in from Cygnus officially at some point. Back in the summer of '98 it would have been a huge mistake to get marketing et al tied in to sourceware. But the result of doing it on the side, with managers looking the other way when sourceware maintainers have to spend time on it, is not very effective. We should have (or present tense, should) convinced management to pony up for a full time person and hooked it into the rest of the company's organization. Jason