From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Kingdon To: jason-swarelist@molenda.com Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 06:08:00 -0000 Message-id: <200005071332.JAA13650@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200005040412.VAA18910@tristam.juniper.net> <20000504131930.B19898@shell17.ba.best.com> X-SW-Source: 2000/msg00477.html > in retrospect, it was a mistake to not get more buy-in from Cygnus > officially at some point. Back in the summer of '98 it would have > been a huge mistake to get marketing et al tied in to sourceware. Well, I'm sort of trying to involve the whole company more, e.g. with sending the rename question to the company wide list. And I have talked with a few people in marketing (not decision makers in marketing, but actually "decision maker in marketing" can be a bit of an oxymoron just now - most notably because Tom Butta (chief marketing officer) was replaced only a few weeks ago). > We should have (or present tense, should) convinced management to pony > up for a full time person and hooked it into the rest of the company's > organization. Part of the problem in the past was figuring out where in the organization this kind of thing might hook in. Although I guess the problem now is more that loss leaders are just really hard to get funded (or maybe not, that's what I thought and then Jim Blandy got funded for 6 months to go hack on version control, which just goes to show that I don't really understand - or something). If anyone in Red Hat is interested in working on this problem, take a look at my internal page on sourceware strategy (email me for the URL on the intranet if you need it), and let me know your thoughts. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Kingdon To: jason-swarelist@molenda.com Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 06:32:00 -0000 Message-ID: <200005071332.JAA13650@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200005040412.VAA18910@tristam.juniper.net> <20000504131930.B19898@shell17.ba.best.com> X-SW-Source: 2000-q2/msg00170.html Message-ID: <20000507063200._Q6-VYN0U45_7HBdLp4rjvFPMjJ__r1H9FWEgHHu3gQ@z> > in retrospect, it was a mistake to not get more buy-in from Cygnus > officially at some point. Back in the summer of '98 it would have > been a huge mistake to get marketing et al tied in to sourceware. Well, I'm sort of trying to involve the whole company more, e.g. with sending the rename question to the company wide list. And I have talked with a few people in marketing (not decision makers in marketing, but actually "decision maker in marketing" can be a bit of an oxymoron just now - most notably because Tom Butta (chief marketing officer) was replaced only a few weeks ago). > We should have (or present tense, should) convinced management to pony > up for a full time person and hooked it into the rest of the company's > organization. Part of the problem in the past was figuring out where in the organization this kind of thing might hook in. Although I guess the problem now is more that loss leaders are just really hard to get funded (or maybe not, that's what I thought and then Jim Blandy got funded for 6 months to go hack on version control, which just goes to show that I don't really understand - or something). If anyone in Red Hat is interested in working on this problem, take a look at my internal page on sourceware strategy (email me for the URL on the intranet if you need it), and let me know your thoughts.