From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Jeffrey A Law <law@cygnus.com>
To: Jim Kingdon <kingdon@redhat.com>
Cc: rosalia@galassi.org, overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com, paulb@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: an article that talks about sourcefourge and itanium 
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:05:00 -0000
Message-ID: <7920.959698486@upchuck>
References: <200005301446.KAA08704@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
X-SW-Source: 2000-q2/msg00293.html
Message-ID: <20000530080500.BihLuFjK8RNvc2F0rkdCWQdaBRm6CTJdhRDmlnqJZ-o@z>

  In message < 200005301446.KAA08704@devserv.devel.redhat.com >you write:
  > 
  > I think at this point it might be a question of what do we want out of
  > Red Hat?  (watch out, there is a "careful what you wish for, you might
  > get it" element to this).  Do we want IS to leave us alone?  Do we
  > want them to handle everything (and if so can they provide the kind of
  > service we're looking for)?  Do any of us want to be (full/part time
  > or consultant) sysadmins?  Do we want to farm out specific tasks to
  > sysadmin?  Do we want to automate those tasks so they don't need
  > farming out?
At one time we wanted sysadmin basically out of the loop (except for backups),
that was mostly because sysadmin was unwilling/unable to provide the kind of
services we needed (high volume mail, shell access for some external folks,
potential root access for some folks, etc etc).

I don't know if the climate in sysadmin has changed enough that we would
want further involvement from the sysadmin staff.

I still believe that if someone wants to take on sourceware as an official
part/full time task that some kind of arrangement can be made.

jeff