From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tom Tromey To: Jim Kingdon Cc: rosalia@galassi.org, overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com, paulb@cygnus.com Subject: Re: an article that talks about sourcefourge and itanium Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:34:00 -0000 Message-ID: <200005301531.IAA15889@ferrule.cygnus.com> References: <7666ry6qx0.fsf@odie.lanl.gov> <200005301446.KAA08704@devserv.devel.redhat.com> X-SW-Source: 2000-q2/msg00294.html Message-ID: <20000530083400.Rd07LXifmBYCCE0CckzpkGWPN_UvnGbR7AVX1XuItYw@z> Jim> I think at this point it might be a question of what do we want Jim> out of Red Hat? (watch out, there is a "careful what you wish Jim> for, you might get it" element to this). Do we want IS to leave Jim> us alone? Do we want them to handle everything (and if so can Jim> they provide the kind of service we're looking for)? Do any of Jim> us want to be (full/part time or consultant) sysadmins? Do we Jim> want to farm out specific tasks to sysadmin? Do we want to Jim> automate those tasks so they don't need farming out? I think: * We should have someone work on sourceware full time. As I see it the work would involve automating things to the extent possible, so that project maintainers wouldn't need constant help to do simple things (tweak mailing lists, user maintenance, etc) * We should get IS to help if they agree with our agenda (they didn't always) * I don't want to be a sysadmin ever again Tom