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From: Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>
To: overseers@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: suggested change to sources.redhat.com page
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 06:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001101105239.A10573@shell17.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001101103628.A6983@shell17.ba.best.com>

On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:36:28AM -0800, Jason Molenda wrote:

> My two cents:  Of course it's inappropriate, that's why I wrote
> it.  Y'all can decide if you want to change it (I'm not going to
> mind one way or the other), but it isn't accidental 

I suppose I could stand to expand on this a bit.

I went overly informal on the front sourceware web page to make it
clear to users that they were no longer on a corporate site.  This
was largely in reaction to our earlier pathetic attempts to have
a corporate spin on free software PR (I'm thinking of the time
around 1994 - 1998).  Our cygnus.com site was trying so desperately
to be a large corporation that we looked like weak posers, and it
was so marketing-drenched that the important technical facts rarely
got through it all.

On sourceware I wanted to divorce from that corporate presence
entirely.  The only things marketing had a hand in are the mission
statement (I would never have written one, but it wasn't terrible
so I didn't mind) and the front page graphic (I think we paid some
consultant $1k or so to come up with "red").

Given that historical background, I wanted net.developers to know
that they were in a press release-free zone when they were on
sourceware, that they wouldn't have to wade through any marketing-style
English with little technical credence, that they would not see
"headquarter" used as a verb.

Maybe this isn't as necessary these days (I haven't looked at
redhat.com in a long time), in which case the change that this
person sent in is not objectionable - it still maintains the
important point of the privacy statement.


Jason

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From: Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>
To: overseers@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: suggested change to sources.redhat.com page
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:53:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001101105239.A10573@shell17.ba.best.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20001101105300.0vXMIDjdM0GTT3BqxK-ymO0kg2_3Ni6NlkKA-DsgElg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001101103628.A6983@shell17.ba.best.com>

On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:36:28AM -0800, Jason Molenda wrote:

> My two cents:  Of course it's inappropriate, that's why I wrote
> it.  Y'all can decide if you want to change it (I'm not going to
> mind one way or the other), but it isn't accidental 

I suppose I could stand to expand on this a bit.

I went overly informal on the front sourceware web page to make it
clear to users that they were no longer on a corporate site.  This
was largely in reaction to our earlier pathetic attempts to have
a corporate spin on free software PR (I'm thinking of the time
around 1994 - 1998).  Our cygnus.com site was trying so desperately
to be a large corporation that we looked like weak posers, and it
was so marketing-drenched that the important technical facts rarely
got through it all.

On sourceware I wanted to divorce from that corporate presence
entirely.  The only things marketing had a hand in are the mission
statement (I would never have written one, but it wasn't terrible
so I didn't mind) and the front page graphic (I think we paid some
consultant $1k or so to come up with "red").

Given that historical background, I wanted net.developers to know
that they were in a press release-free zone when they were on
sourceware, that they wouldn't have to wade through any marketing-style
English with little technical credence, that they would not see
"headquarter" used as a verb.

Maybe this isn't as necessary these days (I haven't looked at
redhat.com in a long time), in which case the change that this
person sent in is not objectionable - it still maintains the
important point of the privacy statement.


Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-30  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-30  6:08 Mark Sobell
2000-11-01 10:09 ` Mark Sobell
2000-12-30  6:08 ` Jason Molenda
2000-11-01 10:37   ` Jason Molenda
2000-12-30  6:08   ` Phil Edwards
2000-11-01 11:04     ` Phil Edwards
2000-12-30  6:08     ` Christopher Faylor
2000-11-01 11:35       ` Christopher Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08     ` Benjamin Kosnik
2000-11-01 12:26       ` Benjamin Kosnik
2000-12-30  6:08   ` Jim Kingdon
2000-11-01 13:52     ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30  6:08     ` sources.redhat.com Paul Weinstein
2000-11-01 16:49       ` sources.redhat.com Paul Weinstein
2000-12-30  6:08       ` sources.redhat.com Tom Tromey
2000-11-02 12:07         ` sources.redhat.com Tom Tromey
2000-12-30  6:08         ` sources.redhat.com Paul Weinstein
2000-11-02 13:49           ` sources.redhat.com Paul Weinstein
2000-12-30  6:08   ` Jason Molenda [this message]
2000-11-01 10:53     ` suggested change to sources.redhat.com page Jason Molenda
2000-12-30  6:08   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-11-01 10:49     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-12-30  6:08 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2000-11-01 11:59   ` Ian Lance Taylor

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