* Access to GNATS infrastracture @ 2000-12-30 6:08 Milan Zamazal 2000-12-21 14:09 ` Milan Zamazal ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the services for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to talk to you regarding getting a write access to them. Could you please setup write access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and FTP? If you'll need to transfer any secret information to me, you can encrypt it using the following GnuPG key (the key is available in the Debian keyring too--if you can trust Debian keys for the purpose of software installation, the key should be trustworthy to you): -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard < http://www.gnupg.org/ > mQGiBDWbtH4RBACWPdyM5rxgLClubg/7fr6hZO/zkdiNpcLKPOWj3sS9VkxkCKSQ fdgt2WA2ECii+FcRHHPEtdwUNndw8o1khEoa1ZmlWBE07Etv3NoAhGp5dYbiO1qY p7n0fu8lgZb4ZoXDr92toNPJK/Y08Urxx/dPGoGfua7I+/aJZlUgl5lbMwCg8OST eTGDcq4uc5pyF2KjkqlPC08D/1SesNW3jnsAAd5bAPMyuUD7cgVpUMjqnwWg0Gob 9r7ncZFRYQ5WC2/FzowJ7bLoRKwqVa0A+oofr9HttR3sVIIBP3Y+n5n6q5ZBZOkj /bpdiIbri7P2HQMHJRuXDFzSHMdrk7yyNjnbwrOvwqHJIPYr6z7gZHa5FZHdkDe9 2UZUA/9WHdX3C4FUI0FcIZ0HZhKWdTqhQfLZOTinWIsOzUOQKGLjrwGAlw0AepKe bRrp7z63tfQWP9dJTV1BomQpeq2eb9mZLRKa1pHWacYgBzYnnqqMrc6ehuXVPKnU CUSkO/dDLujvn1bzOA5foYGUu/CuRxulQ+nPf+1p60NXH0FAfLQeTWlsYW4gWmFt YXphbCA8cGRtQGRlYmlhbi5vcmc+iFcEExECABcFAjWbtH4DCwQDBRUDAgYBAxYC AQIXgAAKCRCRKST+PcKbQbO+AJ0aNVBpb91zxdyuKd2DlRPStTbVLwCg2J1e+QIN /qLRRQbfO8ohIybhu5+IRgQQEQIABgUCOWr0jwAKCRAM/zDhJiV7aKQbAKCKKSJe 3HUBh/Jv6sRKYo67ENEZFgCeJRxjXOt3MYReUQA5QFMC7rRrPwqIRgQQEQIABgUC OWuJ0gAKCRBXW5WyXDPBuLIBAJ42dmUv02V2aNavxI3au/uYqoteTACgqYcwY1WF Sr4o+dn+rqU09TLPpf+IRgQQEQIABgUCOXTTkwAKCRApXKqUbOX7VNBOAKCDqpG3 NdzOeCJ+FNmELJKCWzG+BACfdeHRyMqT6RaoQ1caXLvvt71rCFqIRgQQEQIABgUC OXctawAKCRDSm7/8RC5jwj6TAKCdTSRYMX7WPlC5/DDUn5MZacgxzgCfZvrBs6Vs 25BOWmA2kR2YTkaExJaIRgQQEQIABgUCOWzGoQAKCRAlhJS6kXoiXlacAKDNSUXt bkDP3Q9wRn5FZJdLwiukdgCfdYHww/cZSp2e4sZUZ7Atx93fmhmJAJUDBRA5dAsG 5FG9f3Fy2u0BAd/6BACLlN6Fvkp4U7qs2JHMVuMug1Ej7o9/oLTsWx6w55j98SEb PkLPRggOkvHk2cfbJ3O/qTWslnmIMC+dKSmd3wQ9Qg+dVkA8gVkeKMCcAgPens6u trgSyioYOaU5GvKpT9ZB++2CVbEqs0CMkV1tSBhTUVrW3Abce8m+Co95U8wsV7kB DQQ1m7UoFAQAvQ4Bbx7XZEMys4L7HGaBup3ErhXywH8lgti/JWgAeLN/S4/SPiDm UWcUOLDpANz1NPWh9C4alL2AKPXctgDjFhAycjInpZya1WCjvwQd9Q0FgP5tM6GC 5N4nuCXlVzGP8eAPHPKJIkOMMo0nSGu7e+bv2lga4q7D5oC6Yi5l/esAAwUD/2nG nNlFmsHvGB6SAMgHDlFazUNUWfEiLYjSZuHXSoJfXVlHHsObhNw2nYCB/GCTQw7k XGKPmaAgVEHdVWM0YCzF6ng5oTHD8+9B5MpSLjYP8jsS8FQYfIV7b3ac2ykJ9Mu7 yoOG4IETgK+diXPNzI8psiJwAP8oba2vabySxTzTiEYEGBECAAYFAjWbtSgACgkQ kSkk/j3Cm0FvzwCgrIGA8MvGcSq76cDtPwi9ITDmVo0AoJy8s9BvQB1NUjPBBPYP Kgfu2roD =+UKj -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Thank you. Regards, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 Access to GNATS infrastracture Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-21 14:09 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Access to GNATS infrastracture Jason Molenda 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-21 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the services for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to talk to you regarding getting a write access to them. Could you please setup write access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and FTP? If you'll need to transfer any secret information to me, you can encrypt it using the following GnuPG key (the key is available in the Debian keyring too--if you can trust Debian keys for the purpose of software installation, the key should be trustworthy to you): -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard < http://www.gnupg.org/ > mQGiBDWbtH4RBACWPdyM5rxgLClubg/7fr6hZO/zkdiNpcLKPOWj3sS9VkxkCKSQ fdgt2WA2ECii+FcRHHPEtdwUNndw8o1khEoa1ZmlWBE07Etv3NoAhGp5dYbiO1qY p7n0fu8lgZb4ZoXDr92toNPJK/Y08Urxx/dPGoGfua7I+/aJZlUgl5lbMwCg8OST eTGDcq4uc5pyF2KjkqlPC08D/1SesNW3jnsAAd5bAPMyuUD7cgVpUMjqnwWg0Gob 9r7ncZFRYQ5WC2/FzowJ7bLoRKwqVa0A+oofr9HttR3sVIIBP3Y+n5n6q5ZBZOkj /bpdiIbri7P2HQMHJRuXDFzSHMdrk7yyNjnbwrOvwqHJIPYr6z7gZHa5FZHdkDe9 2UZUA/9WHdX3C4FUI0FcIZ0HZhKWdTqhQfLZOTinWIsOzUOQKGLjrwGAlw0AepKe bRrp7z63tfQWP9dJTV1BomQpeq2eb9mZLRKa1pHWacYgBzYnnqqMrc6ehuXVPKnU CUSkO/dDLujvn1bzOA5foYGUu/CuRxulQ+nPf+1p60NXH0FAfLQeTWlsYW4gWmFt YXphbCA8cGRtQGRlYmlhbi5vcmc+iFcEExECABcFAjWbtH4DCwQDBRUDAgYBAxYC AQIXgAAKCRCRKST+PcKbQbO+AJ0aNVBpb91zxdyuKd2DlRPStTbVLwCg2J1e+QIN /qLRRQbfO8ohIybhu5+IRgQQEQIABgUCOWr0jwAKCRAM/zDhJiV7aKQbAKCKKSJe 3HUBh/Jv6sRKYo67ENEZFgCeJRxjXOt3MYReUQA5QFMC7rRrPwqIRgQQEQIABgUC OWuJ0gAKCRBXW5WyXDPBuLIBAJ42dmUv02V2aNavxI3au/uYqoteTACgqYcwY1WF Sr4o+dn+rqU09TLPpf+IRgQQEQIABgUCOXTTkwAKCRApXKqUbOX7VNBOAKCDqpG3 NdzOeCJ+FNmELJKCWzG+BACfdeHRyMqT6RaoQ1caXLvvt71rCFqIRgQQEQIABgUC OXctawAKCRDSm7/8RC5jwj6TAKCdTSRYMX7WPlC5/DDUn5MZacgxzgCfZvrBs6Vs 25BOWmA2kR2YTkaExJaIRgQQEQIABgUCOWzGoQAKCRAlhJS6kXoiXlacAKDNSUXt bkDP3Q9wRn5FZJdLwiukdgCfdYHww/cZSp2e4sZUZ7Atx93fmhmJAJUDBRA5dAsG 5FG9f3Fy2u0BAd/6BACLlN6Fvkp4U7qs2JHMVuMug1Ej7o9/oLTsWx6w55j98SEb PkLPRggOkvHk2cfbJ3O/qTWslnmIMC+dKSmd3wQ9Qg+dVkA8gVkeKMCcAgPens6u trgSyioYOaU5GvKpT9ZB++2CVbEqs0CMkV1tSBhTUVrW3Abce8m+Co95U8wsV7kB DQQ1m7UoFAQAvQ4Bbx7XZEMys4L7HGaBup3ErhXywH8lgti/JWgAeLN/S4/SPiDm UWcUOLDpANz1NPWh9C4alL2AKPXctgDjFhAycjInpZya1WCjvwQd9Q0FgP5tM6GC 5N4nuCXlVzGP8eAPHPKJIkOMMo0nSGu7e+bv2lga4q7D5oC6Yi5l/esAAwUD/2nG nNlFmsHvGB6SAMgHDlFazUNUWfEiLYjSZuHXSoJfXVlHHsObhNw2nYCB/GCTQw7k XGKPmaAgVEHdVWM0YCzF6ng5oTHD8+9B5MpSLjYP8jsS8FQYfIV7b3ac2ykJ9Mu7 yoOG4IETgK+diXPNzI8psiJwAP8oba2vabySxTzTiEYEGBECAAYFAjWbtSgACgkQ kSkk/j3Cm0FvzwCgrIGA8MvGcSq76cDtPwi9ITDmVo0AoJy8s9BvQB1NUjPBBPYP Kgfu2roD =+UKj -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Thank you. Regards, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 Access to GNATS infrastracture Milan Zamazal 2000-12-21 14:09 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-23 11:31 ` Tom Tromey ` (2 more replies) 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Access to GNATS infrastracture Jason Molenda 2 siblings, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Tom Tromey @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers Milan> I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the Milan> services for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to Milan> talk to you regarding getting a write access to them. Could Milan> you please setup write access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and Milan> FTP? Could you fill out the form here? http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/pdw/ps_form.cgi Thanks, Tom ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey @ 2000-12-23 11:31 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-03 8:01 ` Moving GNATS development to the GNU site Milan Zamazal 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Tom Tromey @ 2000-12-23 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers Milan> I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the Milan> services for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to Milan> talk to you regarding getting a write access to them. Could Milan> you please setup write access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and Milan> FTP? Could you fill out the form here? http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/pdw/ps_form.cgi Thanks, Tom ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-23 11:31 ` Tom Tromey @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-23 12:01 ` Milan Zamazal ` (2 more replies) 2001-10-03 8:01 ` Moving GNATS development to the GNU site Milan Zamazal 2 siblings, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tromey; +Cc: overseers >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> writes: Tom> Could you fill out the form here? Done. (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) Thanks, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-23 12:01 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-23 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tromey; +Cc: overseers >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> writes: Tom> Could you fill out the form here? Done. (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) Thanks, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-23 12:01 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-27 12:07 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers In message < 87n1dm6hbd.fsf@zamazal.org >you write: > >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> writes: > > Tom> Could you fill out the form here? > > Done. > > (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was > appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) Thanks. Your account is now active, the login name is pdm@sources.redhat.com. Mail sent to that address is forwarded to pdm@zamazal.org. This forwarding is a convenience so that people who reply directly to CVS commit mail notes will not get a bounce--publicize it at your own risk. If your involvement with the project ends at some point, the mail address will become invalid and I will laugh evilly as people try in vain to reach you. You should now have write access to the gnats repository with SSH+cvs. Here are lots of details about how to do things. CVS CVS is used for revision control. If you are not familiar with CVS, you have some reading to do. http://www.cyclic.com/ is the central source for all things CVS. http://www.cyclic.com/cvs/info.html has various information. I don't see any simple introductions to using CVS, so ask if you have questions. The most important thing is this: When you want to do a check-in of some change, do it like this: % cvs update % cvs diff # carefully verify what you're about to check in! % cvs commit All of the sources are under CVS. You have write access to the files in your repository. Check them out like this: export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z9 -d :ext:pdm@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/gnats co gnats After you've checked out some files, you won't need to specify the CVSROOT (-d) again, it will be picked out of the CVS control files (the CVS/Root file). You will need to include the -z9; you can put it in your $HOME/.cvsrc file ("cvs -z9") or add it to your command line whenever you're doing CVS operations. If you're going over a modem, you'll definitely want to get this as compressed as possible. To avoid the nuisance of having to supply your passphrase for each operation, you may want to use ssh-agent(1) followed by ssh-add(1) and entering your passphrase once for all. Either start your session as a child of ssh-agent or run it as a demon and set the values of the environment variables SSH_AUTHENTICATION_SOCKET and SSH_AGENT_PID in each relevant process to what ssh-agent prints when it starts. To avoid messages about (lack of) X11 forwarding, put in your $HOME/.ssh/config and entry like: Host *.cygnus.com ForwardX11 no CVS COMMIT MESSAGES You can get e-mail notifications for when things are checked in to your group's repository. There are two notification mailing lists, one for the web pages for your project and one for the project source files. To subscribe to your source-file-notification list, send a message to gnats-cvs-subscribe@sources.redhat.com To get on a digest of the above list (get one note a day), send a note to gnats-cvs-digest-subscribe@sources.redhat.com The body/Subject are ignored in these messages. The From: address is the one you a requesting to subscribe. To request an arbitrary address be subscribed, say foo@bar.com, send a note like this: gnats-cvs-subscribe-foo=bar.com@sources.redhat.com If your project has a web page, then there is a second mailing list for notifications about changes to them. The addresses are just like the above ones except they include "-webpages" after the project name. For instance, gnats-webpages-cvs-digest-subscribe@sources.redhat.com If this is all a little confusing, just use the all-doing auto-subscriber at http://sources.redhat.com/ml/lists.html#faqs CVSWEB You can browse changes that are being made to the CVS repository by going to http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnats?cvsroot=gnats HTTP All of the web pages on http://sources.redhat.com/gnats/ are also under CVS. You can create a home page (if one doesn\'t already exist) for gnats by putting files in the htdocs/ directory of your CVS repository. They will appear instantly (within three or four seconds, anyway) at http://sources.redhat.com/gnats/ If anything is unanswered, please ask. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-27 12:07 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-27 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers In message < 87n1dm6hbd.fsf@zamazal.org >you write: > >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> writes: > > Tom> Could you fill out the form here? > > Done. > > (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was > appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) Thanks. Your account is now active, the login name is pdm@sources.redhat.com. Mail sent to that address is forwarded to pdm@zamazal.org. This forwarding is a convenience so that people who reply directly to CVS commit mail notes will not get a bounce--publicize it at your own risk. If your involvement with the project ends at some point, the mail address will become invalid and I will laugh evilly as people try in vain to reach you. You should now have write access to the gnats repository with SSH+cvs. Here are lots of details about how to do things. CVS CVS is used for revision control. If you are not familiar with CVS, you have some reading to do. http://www.cyclic.com/ is the central source for all things CVS. http://www.cyclic.com/cvs/info.html has various information. I don't see any simple introductions to using CVS, so ask if you have questions. The most important thing is this: When you want to do a check-in of some change, do it like this: % cvs update % cvs diff # carefully verify what you're about to check in! % cvs commit All of the sources are under CVS. You have write access to the files in your repository. Check them out like this: export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z9 -d :ext:pdm@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/gnats co gnats After you've checked out some files, you won't need to specify the CVSROOT (-d) again, it will be picked out of the CVS control files (the CVS/Root file). You will need to include the -z9; you can put it in your $HOME/.cvsrc file ("cvs -z9") or add it to your command line whenever you're doing CVS operations. If you're going over a modem, you'll definitely want to get this as compressed as possible. To avoid the nuisance of having to supply your passphrase for each operation, you may want to use ssh-agent(1) followed by ssh-add(1) and entering your passphrase once for all. Either start your session as a child of ssh-agent or run it as a demon and set the values of the environment variables SSH_AUTHENTICATION_SOCKET and SSH_AGENT_PID in each relevant process to what ssh-agent prints when it starts. To avoid messages about (lack of) X11 forwarding, put in your $HOME/.ssh/config and entry like: Host *.cygnus.com ForwardX11 no CVS COMMIT MESSAGES You can get e-mail notifications for when things are checked in to your group's repository. There are two notification mailing lists, one for the web pages for your project and one for the project source files. To subscribe to your source-file-notification list, send a message to gnats-cvs-subscribe@sources.redhat.com To get on a digest of the above list (get one note a day), send a note to gnats-cvs-digest-subscribe@sources.redhat.com The body/Subject are ignored in these messages. The From: address is the one you a requesting to subscribe. To request an arbitrary address be subscribed, say foo@bar.com, send a note like this: gnats-cvs-subscribe-foo=bar.com@sources.redhat.com If your project has a web page, then there is a second mailing list for notifications about changes to them. The addresses are just like the above ones except they include "-webpages" after the project name. For instance, gnats-webpages-cvs-digest-subscribe@sources.redhat.com If this is all a little confusing, just use the all-doing auto-subscriber at http://sources.redhat.com/ml/lists.html#faqs CVSWEB You can browse changes that are being made to the CVS repository by going to http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnats?cvsroot=gnats HTTP All of the web pages on http://sources.redhat.com/gnats/ are also under CVS. You can create a home page (if one doesn\'t already exist) for gnats by putting files in the htdocs/ directory of your CVS repository. They will appear instantly (within three or four seconds, anyway) at http://sources.redhat.com/gnats/ If anything is unanswered, please ask. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-27 12:07 ` Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-28 10:55 ` Milan Zamazal ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: tromey, overseers >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> Your account is now active, Thanks. I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a write access to it? Regards, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-28 10:55 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-28 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: tromey, overseers >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> Your account is now active, Thanks. I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a write access to it? Regards, Milan Zamazal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-28 10:55 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-29 13:05 ` Jeffrey A Law 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers In message < 87zohg74xn.fsf@zamazal.org >you write: > >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: > > JAL> Your account is now active, > > Thanks. > > I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for > GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a > write access to it? It looks like someone else already took care of this. Whoever it was, thanks! jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-29 13:05 ` Jeffrey A Law 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-29 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers In message < 87zohg74xn.fsf@zamazal.org >you write: > >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: > > JAL> Your account is now active, > > Thanks. > > I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for > GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a > write access to it? It looks like someone else already took care of this. Whoever it was, thanks! jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-28 10:55 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2000-12-28 11:16 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Christopher Faylor 2 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeffrey A Law, Tom Tromey, overseers; +Cc: Milan Zamazal On 28 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for > GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a > write access to it? Yes, of course. ;-) Overseers, I'm going to take care of this... Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-28 11:16 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Christopher Faylor 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-28 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeffrey A Law, Tom Tromey, overseers; +Cc: Milan Zamazal On 28 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for > GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a > write access to it? Yes, of course. ;-) Overseers, I'm going to take care of this... Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2000-12-28 11:16 ` Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Christopher Faylor 2000-12-28 11:27 ` Christopher Faylor 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: Jeffrey A Law, Tom Tromey, overseers, Milan Zamazal On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:15:49PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: >On 28 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: >> I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for >> GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a >> write access to it? > >Yes, of course. ;-) > >Overseers, I'm going to take care of this... Thank you. cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Christopher Faylor @ 2000-12-28 11:27 ` Christopher Faylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2000-12-28 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: Jeffrey A Law, Tom Tromey, overseers, Milan Zamazal On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:15:49PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: >On 28 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: >> I've one additional question--how to use the bug tracking system for >> GNATS at http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl ? Could I get a >> write access to it? > >Yes, of course. ;-) > >Overseers, I'm going to take care of this... Thank you. cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-23 12:01 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2000-12-23 12:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers On 23 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: > (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was > appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) I can also confirm that. (In fact, ``somehow'' on the way I became Milan's deputy, serving as gnatsweb maintainer, but that's a different story... ;-) ) Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-23 12:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-12-23 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: tromey, overseers On 23 Dec 2000, Milan Zamazal wrote: > (I don't know what "who approved your access" exactly means, but I was > appointed as the GNU GNATS maintainer by Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > and I was advised to contact you by Jason Molenda <jason@molenda.com>.) I can also confirm that. (In fact, ``somehow'' on the way I became Milan's deputy, serving as gnatsweb maintainer, but that's a different story... ;-) ) Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-23 11:31 ` Tom Tromey 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-03 8:01 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-08 14:04 ` law 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-03 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers; +Cc: savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen Dear overseers, I'd like to move the GNATS development infrastructure, currently hosted on sources.redhat.com, to the GNU development site (savannah.gnu.org). There is nothing wrong with your excellent services (the recent CVS problem was the only exception for the whole year I maintain GNATS), this is just because GNU has built up its own centralized development site now. I'd like to thank you for your GNATS support on sources.redhat.com. To perform the transfer smoothly, I'd like to ask you for a special assistance for the last time. We need to move the CVS archive, bug tracking database, mailing lists, FTP, and web pages. What we need is: - To stop at a given time the write access to GNATS CVS and BTS and to disable the mailing lists. The CVSROOT and BTS database archives should remain accessible via rsync as they're now so that we can move them to the GNU site. Is there some way to get easily the mailing lists archives as well? - One special thing needed is to get the list of subscribers of the GNATS mailing lists so that we can subscribe them to the newly established mailing lists. - It would be nice if the old mailing list addresses could be forwarded to the new lists and http://sources.redhat.com/gnats could be redirected to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats for some time, if possible. - Nothing needs to be done with FTP. Could you please tell me if you can see any problem with this and when this action could be done (please not immediately, I must announce the date on GNATS mailing lists first)? Thank you very much. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- And why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-03 8:01 ` Moving GNATS development to the GNU site Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-08 14:04 ` law 2001-10-08 14:10 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-13 10:18 ` law 0 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-10-08 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen > - To stop at a given time the write access to GNATS CVS and BTS and to > disable the mailing lists. The CVSROOT and BTS database archives > should remain accessible via rsync as they're now so that we can move > them to the GNU site. Is there some way to get easily the mailing > lists archives as well? It should be pretty easy to shut down write access to the GNATS CVS tree, but leave rsync read access in place so that you can download the bits to the GNU site. The mbox archives should be easy to suck down. The ones that will be more interesting will be those which don't have an mbox format available for download. Those probably also pre-date our use of qmail, so I don't think we can just suck them out of the qmail archive. I'm not sure what the best solution for those older archives will be. > > - One special thing needed is to get the list of subscribers of the > GNATS mailing lists so that we can subscribe them to the newly > established mailing lists. That's easy for us to get to you. Let us know when and we'll send you the subscriber list and shut down new subscriptions. > - It would be nice if the old mailing list addresses could be forwarded > to the new lists and http://sources.redhat.com/gnats could be > redirected to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats for some time, if > possible. That should be relatively easy. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-08 14:04 ` law @ 2001-10-08 14:10 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-12 9:15 ` Jason Molenda 2001-11-13 14:16 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-13 10:18 ` law 1 sibling, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-08 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> The mbox archives should be easy to suck down. The ones that JAL> will be more interesting will be those which don't have an mbox JAL> format available for download. Those probably also pre-date JAL> our use of qmail, so I don't think we can just suck them out of JAL> the qmail archive. I'm not sure what the best solution for JAL> those older archives will be. This is no big problem, they can just be put into a tar.gz archive somewhere and I'll convert them to the mbox format (I assume the archives are in some sort of text format). So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on Thursday, 12:00 GMT. Could you please do the following things anytime after that moment: - To shutdown the write access to CVS and BTS. - To shutdown mailing list subscriptions. - To redirect the mailing lists address gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com to help-gnats@gnu.org. I think the other list addresses needn't be redirected since they're not publicly writable, they can be just stopped. - To put the mailing list archives somewhere where they can be fetched easily. - To send me the lists of mailing list subscribers for all the GNATS mailing lists. - To redirect http://sources.redhat.com/gnats to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats. Please let me know when this is done. Thank you. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- And why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-08 14:10 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-12 9:15 ` Jason Molenda 2001-10-12 16:45 ` Jason Molenda 2001-11-13 14:24 ` Jason Molenda 2001-11-13 14:16 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2001-10-12 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 11:16:16PM +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: > This is no big problem, they can just be put into a tar.gz archive > somewhere and I'll convert them to the mbox format (I assume the > archives are in some sort of text format). All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed in that note. > So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on > Thursday, 12:00 GMT. (~4pm PST Wednesday I think?) > Could you please do the following things anytime > after that moment: > > - To shutdown the write access to CVS and BTS. "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will understand. ;-) Note to person doing the move - I probably did something reasonable for the guile list when that moved to gnu.org; you might want to look at what I did to the config. (it was a year ago, I have no idea any longer.) Ah, and leave all the web archives of the mailing lists in place on sourceware for the forseeable future. The search engines will have pointers into them, and people looking for gnats stuff should get directed to a sane place. > > - To shutdown mailing list subscriptions. > > - To redirect the mailing lists address gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com > to help-gnats@gnu.org. I think the other list addresses needn't be > redirected since they're not publicly writable, they can be just > stopped. > > - To put the mailing list archives somewhere where they can be fetched > easily. > > - To send me the lists of mailing list subscribers for all the GNATS > mailing lists. > > - To redirect http://sources.redhat.com/gnats to > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats. > > Please let me know when this is done. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Milan Zamazal > > -- > And why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-12 9:15 ` Jason Molenda @ 2001-10-12 16:45 ` Jason Molenda 2001-10-13 23:22 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-13 14:34 ` Jason Molenda 2001-11-13 14:24 ` Jason Molenda 1 sibling, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2001-10-12 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:23:24PM -0800, Jason Molenda wrote: > > So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on > > Thursday, 12:00 GMT. > > (~4pm PST Wednesday I think?) No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things ("12:00" == noon), so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same thing with the gnats bug database. The Savannah mail archives are undoubtedly entirely different, so you'll have to start a new archive from scratch over there. You can still refer to the ones on sourceware but they'll be only useful as static content. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-12 16:45 ` Jason Molenda @ 2001-10-13 23:22 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law 2001-11-14 2:02 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-13 14:34 ` Jason Molenda 1 sibling, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-13 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jason Molenda; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen >>>>> "JM" == Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com> writes: JM> FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. JM> The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up JM> the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a JM> redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of JM> people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same JM> thing with the gnats bug database. You're probably right. Jeffrey, could you please send me the lists of subscribers of all the lists as the first step? JM> All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf JM> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html JM> The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed JM> in that note. Thanks for the info. JM> "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan JM> use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will JM> understand. ;-) The bug tracking system is also used by Yngve and, believe or not :-), users sometimes report bugs too. So the users need to be stopped for a while, there is no problem with moving the database itself. JM> Note to person doing the move - I probably did something JM> reasonable for the guile list when that moved to gnu.org; you JM> might want to look at what I did to the config. (it was a year JM> ago, I have no idea any longer.) Thanks. JM> Ah, and leave all the web archives of the mailing lists in place JM> on sourceware for the forseeable future. The search engines JM> will have pointers into them, and people looking for gnats stuff JM> should get directed to a sane place. Good idea. JM> No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things JM> ("12:00" == noon), Yes. :-) JM> so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? I think so. The idea is that the actions on sources.redhat.com can be done during Thursday local time, if overseers are not too busy that day. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- Why waste keystrokes when you can waste CPU cycles instead? Karl Fogel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-13 23:22 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law 2001-10-18 12:55 ` Milan Zamazal ` (2 more replies) 2001-11-14 2:02 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-10-18 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: Jason Molenda, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen > >>>>> "JM" == Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com> writes: > > JM> FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. > JM> The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up > JM> the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a > JM> redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of > JM> people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same > JM> thing with the gnats bug database. > > You're probably right. Jeffrey, could you please send me the lists of > subscribers of all the lists as the first step? Done in a separate message. I've also turned off the subscribe/unsubscribe mechanisms so the list subscription won't change. Let me know when you've got the new lists set up and I'll put in a forwarder (and remove all the subscribers from our side). > JM> All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf > JM> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html > > JM> The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed > JM> in that note. > > Thanks for the info. I'll assume that unless you tell me that you'll take care of sucking down the mail archives yourself. > > JM> "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan > JM> use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will > JM> understand. ;-) > > The bug tracking system is also used by Yngve and, believe or not :-), > users sometimes report bugs too. So the users need to be stopped for a > while, there is no problem with moving the database itself. Do you just want me to tar up the gnats bug database? > JM> No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things > JM> ("12:00" == noon), > > Yes. :-) > > JM> so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? > > I think so. The idea is that the actions on sources.redhat.com can be > done during Thursday local time, if overseers are not too busy that day. Oh well, I happen to be sleeping at 4am most days :-) Let me know when you want to turn off write access to the CVS tree... Or when you want me to tar up the bug database and shut it down too. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law @ 2001-10-18 12:55 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-16 12:53 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-19 11:57 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-15 17:16 ` law 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-18 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> Done in a separate message. I've also turned off the JAL> subscribe/unsubscribe mechanisms so the list subscription won't JAL> change. Thanks. JAL> Let me know when you've got the new lists set up and I'll put JAL> in a forwarder (and remove all the subscribers from our side). Done. The only forwarder needed is gnats-devel@ -> help-gnats@gnu.org Other lists are not publicly "writable". JAL> I'll assume that unless you tell me that you'll take care of JAL> sucking down the mail archives yourself. Yes, nothing is needed from your side. JAL> Do you just want me to tar up the gnats bug database? No, thanks. JAL> Oh well, I happen to be sleeping at 4am most days :-) This was meant as our deadline for final commits etc. and that it was safe to start the transfer any time *after* that moment. I certainly didn't intend to order you to an exact time. :-) JAL> Let me know when you want to turn off write access to the CVS JAL> tree... Or when you want me to tar up the bug database and JAL> shut it down too. OK, not yet, I'll let you know once the new set up is complete. Thank you very much. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- I think any law that restricts independent use of brainpower is suspect. -- Kent Pitman in comp.lang.lisp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-18 12:55 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-16 12:53 ` Milan Zamazal 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-16 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> Done in a separate message. I've also turned off the JAL> subscribe/unsubscribe mechanisms so the list subscription won't JAL> change. Thanks. JAL> Let me know when you've got the new lists set up and I'll put JAL> in a forwarder (and remove all the subscribers from our side). Done. The only forwarder needed is gnats-devel@ -> help-gnats@gnu.org Other lists are not publicly "writable". JAL> I'll assume that unless you tell me that you'll take care of JAL> sucking down the mail archives yourself. Yes, nothing is needed from your side. JAL> Do you just want me to tar up the gnats bug database? No, thanks. JAL> Oh well, I happen to be sleeping at 4am most days :-) This was meant as our deadline for final commits etc. and that it was safe to start the transfer any time *after* that moment. I certainly didn't intend to order you to an exact time. :-) JAL> Let me know when you want to turn off write access to the CVS JAL> tree... Or when you want me to tar up the bug database and JAL> shut it down too. OK, not yet, I'll let you know once the new set up is complete. Thank you very much. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- I think any law that restricts independent use of brainpower is suspect. -- Kent Pitman in comp.lang.lisp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law 2001-10-18 12:55 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-19 11:57 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-19 13:11 ` law 2001-11-18 10:18 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-11-15 17:16 ` law 2 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-19 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers Jeffrey, the transfer is complete now and all the GNATS related services can be shut down on your site(s). Could you please do the following: - To stop the CVS archive for both writing and reading (so that the users aren't confused by the presence of the old code). - To close the bug database for both writing and reading. - If it hasn't happened yet, to stop the mailing list subscriptions and to redirect the gnats-devel@ address to help-gnats@gnu.org. - The web page (http://sources.redhat.com/gnats, http://sourceware.cygnus.com/gnats) should either be redirected by the web server to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats or it should be replaced with a simple page just containing the link to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats -- please do whatever is easier for you. That's all. If possible, please don't delete any data for a few weeks, for case anything bad happens (unlikely, but ...). Thank you very much for your help. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- _/_\_/_ o _\_/_\_ o _/_\_/_ o _\_/_\_ o BEWARE! -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- *Bugs* are / \ / o \ / \ o / \ / o \ / \ o approaching! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-19 11:57 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-10-19 13:11 ` law 2001-11-19 8:39 ` law 2001-11-18 10:18 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-10-19 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers > - To stop the CVS archive for both writing and reading (so that the > users aren't confused by the presence of the old code). Done, I think. It would be good if someone could verify that the gnats CVS tree on sources.redhat.com is unreadable/unwritable. > - To close the bug database for both writing and reading. I'm not sure how to do this. Hints anyone? > - If it hasn't happened yet, to stop the mailing list subscriptions Already stopped. > to redirect the gnats-devel@ address to help-gnats@gnu.org. I believe this is in place too. I just sent a test message via the gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com. Can you please ack it once it gets to help-gnats@gnu.org? > - The web page (http://sources.redhat.com/gnats, > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/gnats) should either be redirected by the > web server to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats or it should be > replaced with a simple page just containing the link to > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats -- please do whatever is easier for > you. I believe redirects have been the preferred solution. I don't know how to set those up, so someone else will. > That's all. If possible, please don't delete any data for a few weeks, > for case anything bad happens (unlikely, but ...). Understood. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-19 13:11 ` law @ 2001-11-19 8:39 ` law 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-11-19 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers > - To stop the CVS archive for both writing and reading (so that the > users aren't confused by the presence of the old code). Done, I think. It would be good if someone could verify that the gnats CVS tree on sources.redhat.com is unreadable/unwritable. > - To close the bug database for both writing and reading. I'm not sure how to do this. Hints anyone? > - If it hasn't happened yet, to stop the mailing list subscriptions Already stopped. > to redirect the gnats-devel@ address to help-gnats@gnu.org. I believe this is in place too. I just sent a test message via the gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com. Can you please ack it once it gets to help-gnats@gnu.org? > - The web page ( http://sources.redhat.com/gnats , > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/gnats ) should either be redirected by the > web server to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats or it should be > replaced with a simple page just containing the link to > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats -- please do whatever is easier for > you. I believe redirects have been the preferred solution. I don't know how to set those up, so someone else will. > That's all. If possible, please don't delete any data for a few weeks, > for case anything bad happens (unlikely, but ...). Understood. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-19 11:57 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-19 13:11 ` law @ 2001-11-18 10:18 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-18 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers Jeffrey, the transfer is complete now and all the GNATS related services can be shut down on your site(s). Could you please do the following: - To stop the CVS archive for both writing and reading (so that the users aren't confused by the presence of the old code). - To close the bug database for both writing and reading. - If it hasn't happened yet, to stop the mailing list subscriptions and to redirect the gnats-devel@ address to help-gnats@gnu.org. - The web page ( http://sources.redhat.com/gnats , http://sourceware.cygnus.com/gnats ) should either be redirected by the web server to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats or it should be replaced with a simple page just containing the link to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats -- please do whatever is easier for you. That's all. If possible, please don't delete any data for a few weeks, for case anything bad happens (unlikely, but ...). Thank you very much for your help. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- _/_\_/_ o _\_/_\_ o _/_\_/_ o _\_/_\_ o BEWARE! -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- -<_|_|_|_><-- *Bugs* are / \ / o \ / \ o / \ / o \ / \ o approaching! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law 2001-10-18 12:55 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-19 11:57 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-15 17:16 ` law 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-11-15 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: Jason Molenda, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen > >>>>> "JM" == Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com> writes: > > JM> FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. > JM> The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up > JM> the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a > JM> redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of > JM> people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same > JM> thing with the gnats bug database. > > You're probably right. Jeffrey, could you please send me the lists of > subscribers of all the lists as the first step? Done in a separate message. I've also turned off the subscribe/unsubscribe mechanisms so the list subscription won't change. Let me know when you've got the new lists set up and I'll put in a forwarder (and remove all the subscribers from our side). > JM> All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf > JM> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html > > JM> The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed > JM> in that note. > > Thanks for the info. I'll assume that unless you tell me that you'll take care of sucking down the mail archives yourself. > > JM> "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan > JM> use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will > JM> understand. ;-) > > The bug tracking system is also used by Yngve and, believe or not :-), > users sometimes report bugs too. So the users need to be stopped for a > while, there is no problem with moving the database itself. Do you just want me to tar up the gnats bug database? > JM> No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things > JM> ("12:00" == noon), > > Yes. :-) > > JM> so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? > > I think so. The idea is that the actions on sources.redhat.com can be > done during Thursday local time, if overseers are not too busy that day. Oh well, I happen to be sleeping at 4am most days :-) Let me know when you want to turn off write access to the CVS tree... Or when you want me to tar up the bug database and shut it down too. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-13 23:22 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-18 11:13 ` law @ 2001-11-14 2:02 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-14 2:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jason Molenda; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen >>>>> "JM" == Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com> writes: JM> FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. JM> The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up JM> the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a JM> redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of JM> people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same JM> thing with the gnats bug database. You're probably right. Jeffrey, could you please send me the lists of subscribers of all the lists as the first step? JM> All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf JM> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html JM> The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed JM> in that note. Thanks for the info. JM> "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan JM> use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will JM> understand. ;-) The bug tracking system is also used by Yngve and, believe or not :-), users sometimes report bugs too. So the users need to be stopped for a while, there is no problem with moving the database itself. JM> Note to person doing the move - I probably did something JM> reasonable for the guile list when that moved to gnu.org; you JM> might want to look at what I did to the config. (it was a year JM> ago, I have no idea any longer.) Thanks. JM> Ah, and leave all the web archives of the mailing lists in place JM> on sourceware for the forseeable future. The search engines JM> will have pointers into them, and people looking for gnats stuff JM> should get directed to a sane place. Good idea. JM> No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things JM> ("12:00" == noon), Yes. :-) JM> so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? I think so. The idea is that the actions on sources.redhat.com can be done during Thursday local time, if overseers are not too busy that day. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- Why waste keystrokes when you can waste CPU cycles instead? Karl Fogel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-12 16:45 ` Jason Molenda 2001-10-13 23:22 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-13 14:34 ` Jason Molenda 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2001-11-13 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:23:24PM -0800, Jason Molenda wrote: > > So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on > > Thursday, 12:00 GMT. > > (~4pm PST Wednesday I think?) No wait, I bet this is one of those European 24-hour things ("12:00" == noon), so that'd be 4am PST Thursday? FWIW the move doesn't have to happen down to the millisecond. The mailing list subscription changes slowly - you could set up the new list with the subscribers right now and then set up a redirection at an appointed time. You can tell the handful of people with gnats cvs write access to not change anything. Same thing with the gnats bug database. The Savannah mail archives are undoubtedly entirely different, so you'll have to start a new archive from scratch over there. You can still refer to the ones on sourceware but they'll be only useful as static content. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-12 9:15 ` Jason Molenda 2001-10-12 16:45 ` Jason Molenda @ 2001-11-13 14:24 ` Jason Molenda 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2001-11-13 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: law, overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 11:16:16PM +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: > This is no big problem, they can just be put into a tar.gz archive > somewhere and I'll convert them to the mbox format (I assume the > archives are in some sort of text format). All of the mail archives are availble by rsync. cf http://sources.redhat.com/ml/overseers/2001-q4/msg00141.html The mbox ones are in the ftp site; the mhonarc ones are detailed in that note. > So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on > Thursday, 12:00 GMT. (~4pm PST Wednesday I think?) > Could you please do the following things anytime > after that moment: > > - To shutdown the write access to CVS and BTS. "BTS" == Bug Tracking System. I've never seen anyone but Milan use that, so I'm guessing no one else on overseers will understand. ;-) Note to person doing the move - I probably did something reasonable for the guile list when that moved to gnu.org; you might want to look at what I did to the config. (it was a year ago, I have no idea any longer.) Ah, and leave all the web archives of the mailing lists in place on sourceware for the forseeable future. The search engines will have pointers into them, and people looking for gnats stuff should get directed to a sane place. > > - To shutdown mailing list subscriptions. > > - To redirect the mailing lists address gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com > to help-gnats@gnu.org. I think the other list addresses needn't be > redirected since they're not publicly writable, they can be just > stopped. > > - To put the mailing list archives somewhere where they can be fetched > easily. > > - To send me the lists of mailing list subscribers for all the GNATS > mailing lists. > > - To redirect http://sources.redhat.com/gnats to > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats . > > Please let me know when this is done. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Milan Zamazal > > -- > And why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-08 14:10 ` Milan Zamazal 2001-10-12 9:15 ` Jason Molenda @ 2001-11-13 14:16 ` Milan Zamazal 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-13 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: law; +Cc: overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen >>>>> "JAL" == Jeffrey A Law <law@redhat.com> writes: JAL> The mbox archives should be easy to suck down. The ones that JAL> will be more interesting will be those which don't have an mbox JAL> format available for download. Those probably also pre-date JAL> our use of qmail, so I don't think we can just suck them out of JAL> the qmail archive. I'm not sure what the best solution for JAL> those older archives will be. This is no big problem, they can just be put into a tar.gz archive somewhere and I'll convert them to the mbox format (I assume the archives are in some sort of text format). So unless anyone objects, I'll announce the transfer to start on Thursday, 12:00 GMT. Could you please do the following things anytime after that moment: - To shutdown the write access to CVS and BTS. - To shutdown mailing list subscriptions. - To redirect the mailing lists address gnats-devel@sources.redhat.com to help-gnats@gnu.org. I think the other list addresses needn't be redirected since they're not publicly writable, they can be just stopped. - To put the mailing list archives somewhere where they can be fetched easily. - To send me the lists of mailing list subscribers for all the GNATS mailing lists. - To redirect http://sources.redhat.com/gnats to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats . Please let me know when this is done. Thank you. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- And why? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Moving GNATS development to the GNU site 2001-10-08 14:04 ` law 2001-10-08 14:10 ` Milan Zamazal @ 2001-11-13 10:18 ` law 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: law @ 2001-11-13 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: overseers, savannah-hackers, yngve.svendsen > - To stop at a given time the write access to GNATS CVS and BTS and to > disable the mailing lists. The CVSROOT and BTS database archives > should remain accessible via rsync as they're now so that we can move > them to the GNU site. Is there some way to get easily the mailing > lists archives as well? It should be pretty easy to shut down write access to the GNATS CVS tree, but leave rsync read access in place so that you can download the bits to the GNU site. The mbox archives should be easy to suck down. The ones that will be more interesting will be those which don't have an mbox format available for download. Those probably also pre-date our use of qmail, so I don't think we can just suck them out of the qmail archive. I'm not sure what the best solution for those older archives will be. > > - One special thing needed is to get the list of subscribers of the > GNATS mailing lists so that we can subscribe them to the newly > established mailing lists. That's easy for us to get to you. Let us know when and we'll send you the subscriber list and shut down new subscriptions. > - It would be nice if the old mailing list addresses could be forwarded > to the new lists and http://sources.redhat.com/gnats could be > redirected to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats for some time, if > possible. That should be relatively easy. jeff ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 Access to GNATS infrastracture Milan Zamazal 2000-12-21 14:09 ` Milan Zamazal 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Tom Tromey @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jason Molenda 2000-12-21 14:26 ` Jason Molenda 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 10:11:12PM +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the services > for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to talk to you > regarding getting a write access to them. Could you please setup write > access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and FTP? I was the one who told him to talk to overseers about keeping it on sourceware. I also sent him a pointer to the rsync page so he could get the cvs/ftp/gnats databases off of the system if he wanted to move them. BTW "BTS" == Bug Tracking System if I'm not mistaken. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: Access to GNATS infrastracture 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Access to GNATS infrastracture Jason Molenda @ 2000-12-21 14:26 ` Jason Molenda 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Jason Molenda @ 2000-12-21 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 10:11:12PM +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I'm a new maintainer of GNATS. I'd like to continue using the services > for GNATS at sourceware.cygnus.com. I was advised to talk to you > regarding getting a write access to them. Could you please setup write > access for me to GNATS' CVS, BTS, and FTP? I was the one who told him to talk to overseers about keeping it on sourceware. I also sent him a pointer to the rsync page so he could get the cvs/ftp/gnats databases off of the system if he wanted to move them. BTW "BTS" == Bug Tracking System if I'm not mistaken. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
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