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* Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
@ 2003-01-22 23:33 Mo DeJong
  2003-01-23 18:28 ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2003-01-22 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

Greetings

About 8 months ago I sent a note to overseers requesting that
the Source-Navigator web pages at http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav
be redirected to http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/. I even sent
in a patch to implement the change for the htdocs module. Problem
is, nothing ever came of it. So, I am back to again request that something
be done about this. The current situation is doing a disservice to the
community at large. The code base currently available on sources
is about two years old and it is not getting any better. The SN bug
database on sources is full of useless bug reports and people keep
adding new ones because they have no way of knowing that the
project has moved. If the web pages can't be forwarded, can someone
please delete all the Source-Navigator related web pages from sources?
Anything would be better than the current situation.

thanks
Mo DeJong

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2003-01-22 23:33 Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages Mo DeJong
@ 2003-01-23 18:28 ` Christopher Faylor
  2003-01-23 22:48   ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2003-01-23 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mo DeJong; +Cc: overseers

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 03:35:31PM -0800, Mo DeJong wrote:
>Greetings
>
>About 8 months ago I sent a note to overseers requesting that
>the Source-Navigator web pages at http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav
>be redirected to http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/. I even sent
>in a patch to implement the change for the htdocs module. Problem
>is, nothing ever came of it. So, I am back to again request that something
>be done about this. The current situation is doing a disservice to the
>community at large. The code base currently available on sources
>is about two years old and it is not getting any better. The SN bug
>database on sources is full of useless bug reports and people keep
>adding new ones because they have no way of knowing that the
>project has moved. If the web pages can't be forwarded, can someone
>please delete all the Source-Navigator related web pages from sources?
>Anything would be better than the current situation.

Jason did this last night but noticed that I didn't have things set up
quite the same way on the new system as the old and didn't complete
the change.

So, I fixed the setup problem and checked in Jason's change.

The source nav pages are now redirected to sourceforge.

cgf

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2003-01-23 18:28 ` Christopher Faylor
@ 2003-01-23 22:48   ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2003-01-23 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christopher Faylor; +Cc: overseers

On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:28:27 -0500
Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> wrote:

> The source nav pages are now redirected to sourceforge.
> 
> cgf

Thanks much.

Mo

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26 13:18             ` Christopher Faylor
@ 2002-06-26 19:43               ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-06-26 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:06:13 -0400
Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:53:53AM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> >Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> writes:
> >> For the record, however, I find it odd that the reassignment of rights
> >> to Red Hat is such a big deal for SourceNav where it is not that big a
> >> deal in the cygwin project.  Sounds like a red herring to me but I
> >> really don't care that much.
> >
> >I would certainly recommend that the SourceNav team require copyright
> >assignments for all patches to some entity, even if it is not Red Hat.
> 
> Agree 100%.

I tried to contact the FSF a number of times about turning SN into a
FSF project like gcc or gdb. They were not interested.

Mo

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26 12:06           ` Ian Lance Taylor
@ 2002-06-26 13:18             ` Christopher Faylor
  2002-06-26 19:43               ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2002-06-26 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers, supermo

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:53:53AM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> writes:
>> For the record, however, I find it odd that the reassignment of rights
>> to Red Hat is such a big deal for SourceNav where it is not that big a
>> deal in the cygwin project.  Sounds like a red herring to me but I
>> really don't care that much.
>
>I would certainly recommend that the SourceNav team require copyright
>assignments for all patches to some entity, even if it is not Red Hat.

Agree 100%.

cgf

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26 10:54         ` Christopher Faylor
@ 2002-06-26 12:06           ` Ian Lance Taylor
  2002-06-26 13:18             ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Lance Taylor @ 2002-06-26 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers, Mo DeJong

Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> writes:

> For the record, however, I find it odd that the reassignment of rights
> to Red Hat is such a big deal for SourceNav where it is not that big a
> deal in the cygwin project.  Sounds like a red herring to me but I
> really don't care that much.

I would certainly recommend that the SourceNav team require copyright
assignments for all patches to some entity, even if it is not Red Hat.

Ian

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26 10:50       ` Tom Tromey
@ 2002-06-26 10:54         ` Christopher Faylor
  2002-06-26 12:06           ` Ian Lance Taylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2002-06-26 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers; +Cc: Mo DeJong

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:52:16AM -0600, Tom Tromey wrote:
>>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer <pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
>Gerald> Would it help breaking this stall if I implement the redirect
>Gerald> (so that no Red Hat employee is involved)?  Or would you have
>Gerald> to disable my access then?
>
>Gerald> Gerald, just trying to be helpful
>
>Yeah, right :-)
>
>I actually doubt anybody "high enough" at Red Hat would notice if we
>did the redirect.  But, unfortunately, that isn't the point.

I don't know if I'm high enough but I think I'd notice, actually.
However, I'll try to get some closure on this in the next couple of
weeks.

For the record, however, I find it odd that the reassignment of rights
to Red Hat is such a big deal for SourceNav where it is not that big a
deal in the cygwin project.  Sounds like a red herring to me but I
really don't care that much.

cgf

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26  8:39     ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2002-06-26 10:50       ` Tom Tromey
  2002-06-26 10:54         ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tom Tromey @ 2002-06-26 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: Ian Lance Taylor, Mo DeJong, overseers

>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer <pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:

Gerald> Would it help breaking this stall if I implement the redirect
Gerald> (so that no Red Hat employee is involved)?  Or would you have
Gerald> to disable my access then?

Gerald> Gerald, just trying to be helpful

Yeah, right :-)

I actually doubt anybody "high enough" at Red Hat would notice if we
did the redirect.  But, unfortunately, that isn't the point.

Tom

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-26  8:36   ` Tom Tromey
@ 2002-06-26  8:39     ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2002-06-26 10:50       ` Tom Tromey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2002-06-26  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Tromey; +Cc: Ian Lance Taylor, Mo DeJong, overseers

On 26 Jun 2002, Tom Tromey wrote:
> I imagine the same thing will hold true if we try to find somebody
> to ok a redirect -- an absurd situation.

Would it help breaking this stall if I implement the redirect (so
that no Red Hat employee is involved)?  Or would you have to disable
my access then?

Gerald, just trying to be helpful
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2002-06-25 20:43   ` Mo DeJong
@ 2002-06-26  8:36   ` Tom Tromey
  2002-06-26  8:39     ` Gerald Pfeifer
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tom Tromey @ 2002-06-26  8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Lance Taylor; +Cc: Mo DeJong, overseers

>>>>> "Ian" == Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com> writes:

Ian> However, I'm curious why you didn't just keep it on sourceware.
Ian> Did you not want to deal with Red Hat, or did Red Hat ask you to
Ian> move it, or what?

Neither.  Like Mo said, the S-N hackers didn't want to assign
copyright to Red Hat.  And I couldn't find anybody at Red Hat who
would sign off on letting S-N become an independent project.  I
imagine the same thing will hold true if we try to find somebody to ok
a redirect -- an absurd situation.

Tom

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
  2002-06-25 17:20   ` Jonathan Larmour
  2002-06-25 17:39   ` Christopher Faylor
@ 2002-06-25 20:43   ` Mo DeJong
  2002-06-26  8:36   ` Tom Tromey
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-06-25 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Lance Taylor; +Cc: overseers

On 25 Jun 2002 16:30:03 -0700
Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com> wrote:

> Mo DeJong <supermo@bayarea.net> writes:
> 
> > Some time ago, Red Hat abandoned the Source-Navigator project.
> > Since then, the project has found a new home at SourceForge
> > and a new stable version has been released. Problem is, lots
> > of people keep getting bad info because they are looking at
> > the outdated pages that still exist on sources.redhat.com.
> > Attached is a patch that redirects each of these pages to
> > the new pages at sourcenav.sourceforge.net. Could someone
> > with CVS write access apply this patch?
> 
> I'll let somebody else deal with the patch.  However, I'm curious why
> you didn't just keep it on sourceware. Did you not want to deal with
> Red Hat, or did Red Hat ask you to move it, or what?

We tried to keep it on sourceware. It was attempted for many months
in fact. The problem was that none of the principal contributors were
interested in assigning ownership of any copyrights to Red Hat.
There was no problem GPLing donated code, it was just the
copyright assignment that was getting in the way of progress.
The feedback I got was that someone from Red Hat the corporation
would have to "approve" this, and of course it never happened.

> I believe there are other projects on sourceware which are no longer
> associated with Red Hat, the corporation.

In this case, it was Red Hat the corporation getting in the way of
progress on a project hosted on sourceware. It was only after many
months of nothing happening that the project was moved.

Mo

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
  2002-06-25 17:20   ` Jonathan Larmour
@ 2002-06-25 17:39   ` Christopher Faylor
  2002-06-25 20:43   ` Mo DeJong
  2002-06-26  8:36   ` Tom Tromey
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2002-06-25 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:30:03PM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>Mo DeJong <supermo@bayarea.net> writes:
>
>> Some time ago, Red Hat abandoned the Source-Navigator project.
>> Since then, the project has found a new home at SourceForge
>> and a new stable version has been released. Problem is, lots
>> of people keep getting bad info because they are looking at
>> the outdated pages that still exist on sources.redhat.com.
>> Attached is a patch that redirects each of these pages to
>> the new pages at sourcenav.sourceforge.net. Could someone
>> with CVS write access apply this patch?
>
>I'll let somebody else deal with the patch.  However, I'm curious why
>you didn't just keep it on sourceware.  Did you not want to deal with
>Red Hat, or did Red Hat ask you to move it, or what?

We didn't ask sourcenav to move and AFAIK the licensing of sourcenav
continues to be in question.  So I'm not comfortable with moving it
anywhere.

>I believe there are other projects on sourceware which are no longer
>associated with Red Hat, the corporation.

Right.  There are certainly a couple of sourceware projects that were
never associated with Red Hat.  bzip2 springs to mind.

cgf

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
@ 2002-06-25 17:20   ` Jonathan Larmour
  2002-06-25 17:39   ` Christopher Faylor
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Larmour @ 2002-06-25 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Lance Taylor; +Cc: overseers

Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> I believe there are other projects on sourceware which are no longer
> associated with Red Hat, the corporation.
> 
> This may now have some relevance to eCos, too.

There's no reason for eCos to move[1], and we have a lot of visibility
where we are now. We're happy with s.r.c.

Jifl

[1] Unless RH forced us, which I'm sure they wouldn't, and cgf agrees.
-- 
--[ "You can complain because roses have thorns, or you ]--
--[  can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Lincoln   ]-- Opinions==mine

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* Re: Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
  2002-06-25 16:30 Mo DeJong
@ 2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
  2002-06-25 17:20   ` Jonathan Larmour
                     ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Lance Taylor @ 2002-06-25 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mo DeJong; +Cc: overseers

Mo DeJong <supermo@bayarea.net> writes:

> Some time ago, Red Hat abandoned the Source-Navigator project.
> Since then, the project has found a new home at SourceForge
> and a new stable version has been released. Problem is, lots
> of people keep getting bad info because they are looking at
> the outdated pages that still exist on sources.redhat.com.
> Attached is a patch that redirects each of these pages to
> the new pages at sourcenav.sourceforge.net. Could someone
> with CVS write access apply this patch?

I'll let somebody else deal with the patch.  However, I'm curious why
you didn't just keep it on sourceware.  Did you not want to deal with
Red Hat, or did Red Hat ask you to move it, or what?

I believe there are other projects on sourceware which are no longer
associated with Red Hat, the corporation.

This may now have some relevance to eCos, too.

Ian

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* Forwarding Source-Navigator web pages.
@ 2002-06-25 16:30 Mo DeJong
  2002-06-25 16:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-06-25 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

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Hello.

Some time ago, Red Hat abandoned the Source-Navigator project.
Since then, the project has found a new home at SourceForge
and a new stable version has been released. Problem is, lots
of people keep getting bad info because they are looking at
the outdated pages that still exist on sources.redhat.com.
Attached is a patch that redirects each of these pages to
the new pages at sourcenav.sourceforge.net. Could someone
with CVS write access apply this patch?

thanks
Mo DeJong


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-         Team</H1>
-         
-         <UL>
-            <LI>Mo DeJong</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Erin Odenweiller</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Syd Polk</LI>
-            
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-         </UL>
-         
-         <P>To contact the Source-Navigator team, please send mail to
-         <A HREF="mailto:sourcenav@sources.redhat.com">sourcenav@sources.redhat.com</A>.</P>
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-                           <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?database=sourcenav&user=guest&password=guest&cmd=login">Bug Reporting</A><BR>
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-         
-         <H1>Contributing to the Source-Navigator<FONT SIZE="-2"><SUP>TM</SUP></FONT>
-         IDE</H1>
-         
-         <P>Source-Navigator is a
-         collaborative project and one which wants to encourage new
-         development. You may wish to fix Source-Navigator bugs,
-         improve testing, port
-         Source-Navigator to a
-         new platform, update documentation, add new features, and
-         the like. To help with this, there is some documentation
-         available. In addition to the <A HREF="docs.html">User
-         Guide</A> included in the distribution, the
-         Source-Navigator web
-         pages also contain much information.</P>
-         
-         <P>You may also want to submit your change so that it can be
-         considered for inclusion in a future version of
-         Source-Navigator (see
-         below). Even if your changes are not included in main
-         Red Hat distribution of
-         Source-Navigator,
-         you are welcome to redistribute them on your own.</p>
-         
-         <P>If you don't feel up to hacking
-         Source-Navigator, there
-         are still plenty of ways to help! You can answer questions
-         on the mailing lists, write documentation, find bugs, create
-         a Source-Navigator
-         related website, contribute to the official <A HREF="index.html">Source-Navigator
-         web site</A>, or create a Source-Navigator related
-         software package. We welcome all of the above. Feel free to
-         ask on the
-         Source-Navigator mailing
-         lists if you are looking for feedback or for people to
-         review a work in progress.</P>
-         
-         <P>Finally, there are certain legal requirements and style
-         issues which all contributors need to be aware of.</P>
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-         All contributions must conform to the Tcl/Tk Coding
-         Standards (there is one set for <A HREF="http://dev.ajubasolutions.com/doc/engManual.pdf">C</A>
-         and one set for <A HREF="http://dev.ajubasolutions.com/doc/styleGuide.pdf">Tcl</A>).
-         Submissions which do not conform to the standards will be
-         returned with a request to reformat the changes. Please note
-         that some of the code, especially in the current release, is
-         not to this standard. In the case where patches are
-         submitted in code that does not conform to the coding
-         standards, please try to use the style the code is currently
-         written in. The maintainers will try to use common sense
-         when asking for reformatting.</P>
-                 
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-               <TH>
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-         </TABLE>
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-         Before we can accept code contributions from you, we need a
-         <A HREF="copyright.html">copyright assignment form (this page is out of date)</A>
-         filled out. Small changes can be accepted without a
-         copyright assignment form on file.</P>
-         
-         <P>This is pretty confusing! If you are unsure of what is
-         necessary, just ask the
-         Source-Navigator mailing
-         list and we'll figure out what is best for you.</P>
-         
-         <P>Note: Many of these forms have a place for "name of
-         program". Insert the name of one program in that place -- in
-         this case,
-         "Source-Navigator".</P>
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-            description of the feature and your implementation.</LI>
-            
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-            patch); see the various ChangeLog files for format and
-            content. Note that, unlike some other projects, we do
-            require ChangeLogs also for documentation (i.e., .html
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-            "<TT>diff -up OLD NEW</TT>". If your version of
-            <TT>diff</TT> does not support these options, then get
-            the latest version of GNU <TT>diff</TT>.</LI>
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-         
-         <P>We accept patches as plain text (preferred for the code
-         itself), MIME attachments (preferred for the web pages), or
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-         
-         <P>When you have all these pieces, bundle them up in a mail
-         message and send it to sourcenav@sources.redhat.com. All
-         patches and related discussion should be sent to the
-         sourcenav mailing list.</P>
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-            <LI>Please try to run the relevant test suite before and
-            after committing a patch If the contributor doesn't do it
-            then the maintainer will. A contributor might include
-            before/after test results in their contribution. This
-            assumes, of course, that there is a test suite for the
-            feature or patch. While we will not require development
-            of a test harness before accepting patches, once one is
-            in place, we will request tests for any new
-            features.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>For bug fixes, please try to include a way of
-            demonstrating that the patch actually fixes something.
-            The best way of doing this is to ensure that the test
-            suite contains one or more test cases that fail without
-            the fix but pass with the fix.</LI>
-            
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-            the test suite.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Please read your patch before submitting it. A patch
-            containing several unrelated changes or arbitrary
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-                           Project</A><BR>
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-         </P>
-         
-         <H1>Downloading
-         Source-Navigator<FONT SIZE="-2"><SUP>TM</SUP></FONT></H1>
-         
-         <P>Version 5.0 is the last stable release. You can download
-         source for stable releases. You can also download pre-built
-         binaries for Solaris, HPUX or Windows.</P>
-         
-         <P>Development releases are not guaranteed to be stable;
-         they are snapshots of what the Source-Navigator team is
-         currently working on. You should download the sources
-         from a <A HREF="/mirrors.html">mirror site</A>. Don't
-         try to download from sources.redhat.com directly, the
-         FTP site is there for mirrors only.</p>
-
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-         We suggest that users in the United States use the following
-         HTTP based mirror:<br>
-         <a href="http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/sourcenav">
-         http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/sourcenav</a>
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-                           <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org">The GNU
-                           Project</A><BR>
-                           <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com">Red
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-                              <P>Get Source-Navigator
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-         <BR>
-         </P>
-         
-         <H1>The Source-Navigator<FONT SIZE="-2"><SUP>TM</SUP></FONT>
-         IDE</H1>
-         
-         <P><TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=4 WIDTH="95%">
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-               <TH>
-                  <P>Source-Navigator News</P>
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-         </TABLE>
-         <BR>
-         <TABLE>
-            <TR>
-               <TD VALIGN=top>
-                  <P><B>April 2, 2001:</B></P>
-               </TD>
-               <TD>
-                  <P>Source-Navigator 5.0 is released!</P>
-                  
-                  <UL>
-                     <LI>Upgrade to incr Tcl 3.0 complete!</LI>
-                  </UL>
-               </TD>
-            </TR>
-            <TR>
-               <TD>
-                  <P><B>March 13, 2001:</B></P>
-               </TD>
-               <TD>
-                  <P>New bug database is online!</P>
-                  
-                  <UL>
-                     <LI>Try the new Bug Reporting link.</LI>
-                  </UL>
-               </TD>
-            </TR>
-            <TR>
-               <TD VALIGN=top>
-                  <P><B>September 12, 2000:</B></P>
-               </TD>
-               <TD>
-                  <P>Source-Navigator 4.5.2 is released!</P>
-                  
-                  <UL>
-                     <LI>Full support for ANSI C++&nbsp;keywords,
-                     like const_cast, etc.</LI>
-                     
-                     <LI>Now a new Python parser!</LI>
-                     
-                     <LI>Download 4.5.2 <A HREF="download.html">here</A>!</LI>
-                  </UL>
-               </TD>
-            </TR>
-            <TR>
-               <TD VALIGN=top>
-                  <P><B>July 20, 2000:</B></P>
-               </TD>
-               <TD>
-                  <P>Red Hat Opens Source-Navigator!</P>
-                  
-                  <UL>
-                     <LI>Download the source for version 4.5.1
-                     <A HREF="download.html">here</A>!</LI>
-                     
-                     <LI>See the press release <A HREF="20000720-announce.html">here</A>!</LI>
-                  </UL>
-               </TD>
-            </TR>
-         </TABLE>
-         <BR>
-         <TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=4 WIDTH="95%">
-            <TR BGCOLOR="#B0D0FF">
-               <TH>
-                  <P>What is Source-Navigator?</P>
-               </TH>
-            </TR>
-         </TABLE>
-          Source-Navigator is a source code analysis tool. With it,
-         you can edit your source code, display relationships between
-         classes and functions and members, and display call trees.
-         You can also build your projects, either with your own
-         makefile, or by using Source-Navigator's build system to
-         automatically generate a makefile.</P>
-         
-         <P>Source-Navigator works with the <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/insight">Insight</A>
-         GUI interface for GDB.</P>
-         
-         <P>Source-Navigator supports C, C++, Java, Tcl, &#91;incr
-         Tcl&#93;, FORTRAN and COBOL, and provides and SDK so that
-         you can write your own parsers.</P>
-         
-         <P>Use Source-Navigator to:</P>
-         
-         <UL>
-            <LI>Analyze how a change will effect external source
-            modules.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Find every place in your code where a given function
-            is called.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Find each file that includes a given header
-            file.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Use the grep tool to search for a given string in all
-            your source files.</LI>
-         </UL>
-         
-         <P>Source-Navigator is released under the <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">GNU
-         Public License</A>.</P>
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-         The following is a collection of links related to Source-Navigator and the things it does:</P>
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-            and maintainer.</LI>
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-            <LI>Dara Golden - documentation writer for the 4.5,
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-            <LI>Kevin Phillips - marketing director for the 4.5 and
-            CodeFusion releases.</LI>
-            
-            <LI>Florent Pillet - contributed fixes for the C++ parser
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-            
-            <LI>Syd Polk - manager; maintainer of Tcl/Tk in
-            Source-Navigator.</LI>
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-            <LI>Chris Provenzano - first port of Source-Navigator to
-            Microsoft Windows.</LI>
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-            <LI>Ian Roxborough - primary Source-Navigator engineer
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-            <LI>Marc Schifer - quality engineering manager for the
-            4.5, CodeFusion and the EDK releases.</LI>
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-            <LI>Curt Schroeders - quality engineer for the 4.1
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2002-06-25 20:43   ` Mo DeJong
2002-06-26  8:36   ` Tom Tromey
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2002-06-26 10:50       ` Tom Tromey
2002-06-26 10:54         ` Christopher Faylor
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