sourceware.org

sourceware.org

[Jonathan Larmour]

I've been thinking about the increased use of sourceware.org. In 
particular, I've been wondering about whether something like using 
ecos.sourceware.org might be a good idea.

But if we listed that as the "canonical" site for eCos stuff, could we be 
bitten by that trademark problem, or has that gone away now?

Just wondering anyway,

Jifl
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Re: sourceware.org

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 03:40:40PM +0000, Jonathan Larmour wrote:
>I've been thinking about the increased use of sourceware.org. In 
>particular, I've been wondering about whether something like using 
>ecos.sourceware.org might be a good idea.
>
>But if we listed that as the "canonical" site for eCos stuff, could we be 
>bitten by that trademark problem, or has that gone away now?

I like the idea of having ecos.sourceware.org.  I think the trademark issue
may now be a nonissue but I don't know if anyone knows for sure.
FWIW, I did get some buyin with allowing something like
ecos.sources.redhat.com at one point here but I never followed through
on it.  I suspect that window of opportunity may have passed, though.

cgf

Re: sourceware.org

[Jason Molenda]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:52:54PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> I like the idea of having ecos.sourceware.org.  I think the trademark issue
> may now be a nonissue but I don't know if anyone knows for sure.

The two guys who last owned the trademark had a startup that seemed
utterly inane even back in 1999 -- I'm sure they're gone.  They might
have sold the TM to someone else, but the days of fast money and loose
women for free software are over ;-) so I rather doubt anyone would pay
for it.

J

Re: sourceware.org

[Phil Edwards]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:42:25PM -0800, Jason Molenda wrote:
>
> but the days of fast money and loose
> women for free software are over ;-)

Well, CRAP.  Close out my sources.redhat account, willya crash?  I gotta
go cancel my gccsummit registration and tell the libstdc++ groupies to
move out of my apartment.

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Re: sourceware.org

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:05:28PM +0000, Jason Molenda wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:46:40PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>> I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  
>
>Sweet!  I've been meaning to look at the status of Sourceware for
>a little while now.  Back in '98 or '99 there was some l0zers who'd
>purchased the trademark rights are were telling us to stop using
>the name (which I essentially ignored :-) - I'm positive their
>company doesn't exist any longer.  It sounded implausible even in
>the silly high-times of 1999-2000.
>
>The whois record for sourceware.com shows the owner bought it for
>five years.  Boo!  It looks like a single person doing some side
>work out of his home.

AFAICT, it looks like the current trademark owner is different from the
sourceware.com and sourceware.net domain name owners.

So, I'm not worried either.

Should we start referring to the system as sourceware.org?  I tend to
call the system sourcew, er, sources, anyway.

cgf
Cyg, er, Red Hat, Inc.

Re: sourceware.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

Per Bothner <per@bothner.com> writes:

> Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> 
> >I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
> >own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
> >can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/ .
> >You can also send mail @sourceware.org.
> >
> >sourceware.com is not, alas, available.
> >
> The reason we switches from "sourceware" was because somebody
> had trademarked "sourceware", and it was felt that was a problem.
> So unless the situation has changed, using sourceware.org may
> not be a good idea.

I remember.  I'm not worried.

Ian

Re: sourceware.org

[Per Bothner]

Ian Lance Taylor wrote:

>I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
>own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
>can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/ .
>You can also send mail @sourceware.org.
>
>sourceware.com is not, alas, available.
>
The reason we switches from "sourceware" was because somebody
had trademarked "sourceware", and it was felt that was a problem.
So unless the situation has changed, using sourceware.org may
not be a good idea.
    --Per

Re: sourceware.org

[Jason Molenda]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:46:40PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  

Sweet!  I've been meaning to look at the status of Sourceware for
a little while now.  Back in '98 or '99 there was some l0zers who'd
purchased the trademark rights are were telling us to stop using
the name (which I essentially ignored :-) - I'm positive their
company doesn't exist any longer.  It sounded implausible even in
the silly high-times of 1999-2000.

The whois record for sourceware.com shows the owner bought it for
five years.  Boo!  It looks like a single person doing some side
work out of his home.

J

sourceware.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/ .
You can also send mail @sourceware.org.

sourceware.com is not, alas, available.

Ian

Re: sourceware.org

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:05:28PM +0000, Jason Molenda wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:46:40PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>> I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  
>
>Sweet!  I've been meaning to look at the status of Sourceware for
>a little while now.  Back in '98 or '99 there was some l0zers who'd
>purchased the trademark rights are were telling us to stop using
>the name (which I essentially ignored :-) - I'm positive their
>company doesn't exist any longer.  It sounded implausible even in
>the silly high-times of 1999-2000.
>
>The whois record for sourceware.com shows the owner bought it for
>five years.  Boo!  It looks like a single person doing some side
>work out of his home.

AFAICT, it looks like the current trademark owner is different from the
sourceware.com and sourceware.net domain name owners.

So, I'm not worried either.

Should we start referring to the system as sourceware.org?  I tend to
call the system sourcew, er, sources, anyway.

cgf
Cyg, er, Red Hat, Inc.

Re: sourceware.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

Per Bothner <per@bothner.com> writes:

> Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> 
> >I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
> >own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
> >can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/.
> >You can also send mail @sourceware.org.
> >
> >sourceware.com is not, alas, available.
> >
> The reason we switches from "sourceware" was because somebody
> had trademarked "sourceware", and it was felt that was a problem.
> So unless the situation has changed, using sourceware.org may
> not be a good idea.

I remember.  I'm not worried.

Ian

Re: sourceware.org

[Per Bothner]

Ian Lance Taylor wrote:

>I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
>own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
>can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/.
>You can also send mail @sourceware.org.
>
>sourceware.com is not, alas, available.
>
The reason we switches from "sourceware" was because somebody
had trademarked "sourceware", and it was felt that was a problem.
So unless the situation has changed, using sourceware.org may
not be a good idea.
    --Per

Re: sourceware.org

[Jason Molenda]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:46:40PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  

Sweet!  I've been meaning to look at the status of Sourceware for
a little while now.  Back in '98 or '99 there was some l0zers who'd
purchased the trademark rights are were telling us to stop using
the name (which I essentially ignored :-) - I'm positive their
company doesn't exist any longer.  It sounded implausible even in
the silly high-times of 1999-2000.

The whois record for sourceware.com shows the owner bought it for
five years.  Boo!  It looks like a single person doing some side
work out of his home.

J

sourceware.org

[Ian Lance Taylor]

I noticed that the domain name sourceware.org was available.  For my
own amusement, I bought it, and pointed it at sources.redhat.com.  You
can now look at http://sourceware.org/ and http://www.sourceware.org/.
You can also send mail @sourceware.org.

sourceware.com is not, alas, available.

Ian