From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10063 invoked by alias); 4 Jan 2004 17:21:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 10054 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2004 17:21:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2004 17:21:32 -0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i04HLVA13757; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:21:31 -0500 Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.156]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i04HLVE00667; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:21:31 -0500 Received: from redhat.com (vpn50-12.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.12]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i04HLUUx029865; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:21:31 -0500 Received: by redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 201) id BF991400088; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:21:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 17:21:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: Jonathan Larmour , overseers@sourceware.org Subject: Re: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#rbl-sucks Message-ID: <20040104172130.GA7697@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Larmour , overseers@sourceware.org References: <3FF83E0A.9080604@eCosCentric.com> <20040104170613.GA7431@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040104170613.GA7431@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-SW-Source: 2004-q1/txt/msg00013.txt.bz2 On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:06:13PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>Also the bounce apparently says, e.g.: >>>Connected to 193.74.208.146 but sender was rejected. >>> Remote host said: 553 5.3.0 Spam Rejected - see >>http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml > >This is not a sources.redhat.com bounce. And, now that I've read the postmaster mailing list, I see where your confusion is coming from. sources.redhat.com was blocked by spamcop for a while. That happens periodically, especially after an ip address change. Some idiot decides that because they received spam from one of our mailing lists, we must be spammers, and they report us to spamcop. sources.redaht.com was previously in a "do not block" list but that must have evaporated when we switched IP addresses a while ago. It was fixed a couple of weeks ago. ezmlm is sending out a bunch of "we couldn't send email to you" messages so people will be confused by the fact that they are using spamcop and sources.redhat.com was blocking us from sending mailing list traffic.