From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14167 invoked by alias); 12 Sep 2012 17:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14150 invoked by uid 22791); 12 Sep 2012 17:09:17 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-50.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,TW_ZM X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mho-04-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.74) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:09:01 +0000 Received: from pool-173-76-55-36.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([173.76.55.36] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBqQv-000FfV-92; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:09:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8EA42800E; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:09:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18uV4Xcfth4sJcOLVklKUjG Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:09:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Sourceware Overseers Subject: Re: sourceware hardware transition plan, part 1/N Message-ID: <20120912170900.GA26605@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Mail-Followup-To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Sourceware Overseers References: <20120907214632.GA27866@redhat.com> <504A8972.4080303@jifvik.org> <2B1B0D77-4005-4257-B43A-626F58912290@releasedominatrix.com> <20120910175659.GE8150@redhat.com> <20120910190039.GA3482@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20120912152859.GC22100@redhat.com> <20120912153724.GA25717@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20120912160935.GE22100@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120912160935.GE22100@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2012-q3/txt/msg00112.txt.bz2 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:09:35PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: >> Should we rsync stuff over and then start working on a ezmlm->mailman >> translation? We'll also likely need to do a lot of work to keep URLs >> correct. > >(My original thought was that the existing mhonarc archives would be >preserved, so existing URLs would stay valid; just new archives would >go to a new http url hierarchy.) Ah, that would be easier. So we just have an "old" archive which preserves the old ml and a "new" one. So, would it make sense to populate the new archive with old content too just for consistency? We'd have duplicate content but it seems like it would be less confusing to end users. >> Do we REALLY want to move from ezmlm? Isn't there an rpm-based package >> out there somewhere that we could use? > >Well, dunno. ezmlm is not the worst thing about old sourceware; if >others are content, we could keep it awhile longer. The mediawiki >transition could also be done later, on-line. I chatted with Ian about this on irc. The problem with ezmlm and qmail is that they are not maintained and, so, are unaware of new standards like DKIM. If we think we will have to at some point then I think we should pull the band-aid off now. Or, alternatively, commit to supporting both packages ourselves. cgf