From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17693 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 2014 14:16:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 17548 invoked by uid 89); 6 Aug 2014 14:16:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-50.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.66) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:16:54 +0000 Received: from pool-173-48-46-28.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([173.48.46.28] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XF21M-0009Mt-GV for overseers@sourceware.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:16:52 +0000 Received: from ednor (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D68E600CD for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ednor (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:16:50 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19SV5ZkgQProNByw3Y/FI8K Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:16:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: overseers@sourceware.org Subject: Re: Cygwin infrastructure assistance, part 2 Message-ID: <20140806141650.GA1029@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Mail-Followup-To: overseers@sourceware.org References: <53E171A9.2080209@redhat.com> <53E1B748.9030408@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E1B748.9030408@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SW-Source: 2014-q3/txt/msg00084.txt.bz2 On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:04:08AM -0500, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >On 2014-08-05 22:48, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >> Yaakov Selkowitz writes: >>> The next thing we need help with is mailing list management: >>> >>> * receiving cygwin*-owner@ messages, >> >> These seem to go to either postmaster AT cygwin.com or >> postmaster AT sourceware.org, which I think wind up in the same place. For >> any given list, look at ~alias/.qmail-LISTNAME-owner to see where the >> messages go. Right now I think that all e-mail to postmaster goes just >> to cgf. It's a mailing list: /qmail/lists-system/postmaster. I guess >> somebody else should get on that list, though I imagine it gets a lot of >> spam. > >$ ezmlm-list /qmail/lists-system/postmaster >me AT cgf.cx > >I have attempted to subscribe to postmaster, but after acking my >subscription request I am still not subscribed. Would my subscription >request be stuck in a moderator queue? >> In general I would not expect the -owner address to get many interesting >> messages. > >Probably true, but occasionally human intervention is required, and it >doesn't help us much if cgf is the only person getting them (and who >knows for how much longer at that). I don't recall many cases of needing to be able to deal with a cygwin-specific issue in postmaster mail. There probably is a disproportionate amount of people confused by the concept of not sending html email but the canned response to that confusion is not cygwin-specific. >> ezmlm-list /qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin >> >> Replace "cygwin" with the mailing list you are interested in. > >This works for me, but these do not: > >> ezmlm-unsub /qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin joe@foo.com >> ezmlm-sub /qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin/deny joe@foo.com > >ezmlm-unsub: fatal: unable to open >/qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin-announce/lock: access denied > >The lock files are mostly 0644 alias:qmail, except for >/qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin-developers/deny-subscribe/lock and >/qmail/lists-sourceware/cygwin-talk/deny/lock which are 0400 root:root. > Is there a way to make these accessible from the cygwin-admin login? The intent of ezmlm mailing list administration is that everything should be able to be manipulated via email. Corinna has been able to subscribe and unsubscribe people from the cygwin mailing list for years. http://untroubled.org/ezmlm/ezman/ezman2.html