From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6559 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2014 15:31:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 6547 invoked by uid 89); 7 Aug 2014 15:31:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-50.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.72) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:31:29 +0000 Received: from pool-173-48-46-28.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([173.48.46.28] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPf5-000GL7-61; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from ednor (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with SMTP id 48B7B600CD; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ednor (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:31:25 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX192/pjdksnoVEva8xe5tusx Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:31:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: overseers@sourceware.org, Yaakov Selkowitz Subject: Re: Cygwin infrastructure assistance, part 2 Message-ID: <20140807153125.GB4730@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Mail-Followup-To: overseers@sourceware.org, Yaakov Selkowitz References: <53E171A9.2080209@redhat.com> <53E1B748.9030408@redhat.com> <20140806141650.GA1029@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <53E2A330.70704@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E2A330.70704@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SW-Source: 2014-q3/txt/msg00088.txt.bz2 On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 04:50:40PM -0500, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >On 2014-08-06 09:16, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:04:08AM -0500, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> On 2014-08-05 22:48, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >>>> Yaakov Selkowitz writes: >>>>> The next thing we need help with is mailing list management: >>>>> >>>>> * receiving cygwin*-owner@ messages, >>>> >>>> These seem to go to either postmaster AT cygwin.com or >>>> postmaster AT sourceware.org, which I think wind up in the same place. For >>>> any given list, look at ~alias/.qmail-LISTNAME-owner to see where the >>>> messages go. Right now I think that all e-mail to postmaster goes just >>>> to cgf. It's a mailing list: /qmail/lists-system/postmaster. I guess >>>> somebody else should get on that list, though I imagine it gets a lot of >>>> spam. >>> >>> $ ezmlm-list /qmail/lists-system/postmaster >>> me AT cgf.cx >>> >>> I have attempted to subscribe to postmaster, but after acking my >>> subscription request I am still not subscribed. Would my subscription >>> request be stuck in a moderator queue? >> >>>> In general I would not expect the -owner address to get many interesting >>>> messages. >>> >>> Probably true, but occasionally human intervention is required, and it >>> doesn't help us much if cgf is the only person getting them (and who >>> knows for how much longer at that). >> >> I don't recall many cases of needing to be able to deal with a >> cygwin-specific issue in postmaster mail. There probably is a >> disproportionate amount of people confused by the concept of not sending >> html email but the canned response to that confusion is not >> cygwin-specific. > >Understood, but eventually there will need to be some human >intervention; as they say, "somebody has to do it" and I presume that >won't be you going forward. Again, The issues that show up at cygwin-owner are basically general "I can't send email" messages that someone with a user account on sourceware likely won't be able to solve. The issues are not cygwin specific. One of the ecos guys monitors ecos-owner but usually the only thing he does is either reiterate that html-email isn't allowed or make the observation before I do. cgf