From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 62506 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 2020 15:19:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 62498 invoked by uid 89); 6 Feb 2020 15:19:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=shortage, yum, our, interest X-HELO: elastic.org Received: from li367-187.members.linode.com (HELO elastic.org) (96.126.110.187) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:19:02 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=elastic.org ; s=default2; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=urlY4sfiKNjLyQMs0RZMauiBecOIz6+LLVKU3i6S0Q0=; b=hVF0VHWbvoaTZwKKcPQ0UuZ3yV elD348QRp3L67sUlhfy0i1EaRRfyd4dnjxmdAGrdU7m/K7nbRYJG3Ew//EYPb3NxU4FZhIqKqT3AM uo5lJLnRIbpoBYF9d7Qh+rEuX5RF59WdmhwsNTNA9eIFESun4/pFReBnAO0hbB5O5R5BAdEr/ZznB WXW9vjARVi7EC8QAGBZYnzXdijAWAKy3b8Ofs2w2jgLWS0LiUBMMjP9zDW+cle08lKurBrVb3H/Oj lEsDg3nJEOGABieFuaLjT7XD/rKWMsbCOY0mKZmdXlfjwtL6lYbieTLGedhzmyhL4fmO/7EjtSO6N Adv3w99g==; Received: from vpn-home.elastic.org ([10.0.0.2] helo=elastic.org) by elastic.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1izivk-0006KT-M0; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:19:00 +0000 Received: from fche by elastic.org with local (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1izivk-0006lm-91; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 10:19:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:19:00 -0000 From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" To: Carlos O'Donell Cc: overseers@sourceware.org, Florian Weimer Subject: Re: Choice of distribution for new sourceware.org server? Message-ID: <20200206151900.GA24071@elastic.org> References: <74e963de-f7c8-33d0-d133-ada427c000a4@redhat.com> <20200206013050.GA16275@cgf.cx> <20200206013405.GC97355@elastic.org> <20200206020237.GD97355@elastic.org> <20200206144908.GG97355@elastic.org> <177b7cdc-bf88-a004-6f3d-9fb4c8a65da7@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <177b7cdc-bf88-a004-6f3d-9fb4c8a65da7@redhat.com> X-Sender-Verification: "" X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2020-q1/txt/msg00072.txt Hi - > Awesome. Do you need any help with regular evaluations? Is there a meeting > for that? Or is this tactically driven when something can't be upgraded? We evaluate when people want to evaluate, as we are doing right now. > I'm surprised the wiki is non-distro software. I recently setup a dokuwiki > backed by git, and it was all distro-software with just configuration data. What's a "dokuwiki"? Yum list doesn't know it. We use ikiwiki (a git-backed wiki system) for one of the wikis on sourceware, and I like it a lot. ikiwiki is not a RHEL product either. > Moinmoin is basically dead upstream. > Dokuwiki is actively maintained and there are migration paths from moinmoin > to dokuwiki. > And I would switch to gitolite [...] The way that we can make use of ideas like this is for someone to go beyond suggest them to actually try things out, consult with the respective user base, install, popularize, transition, watch over it all, and ideally help shut it down when that time comes. IOW, there is no shortage of other tools we -could- run. What is short is interest & commitment in doing all that work. > This would also allow us to restrict shell access to only those that > ask for it and thus limit our security exposure (best practice). Our shell access is already restricted. > [RHEL8 vs CentOS] Luckily, we have until 2029 to work through the details either way. - FChE