From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cgf.cx (external.cgf.cx [107.170.62.102]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AC7388A01F for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org F3AC7388A01F X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 cgf.cx 7149240C68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-CGF-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 spammy=UD:info, H*r:unknown, bringing, lives Received: by cgf.cx (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:00:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:00:44 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: Overseers mailing list Cc: Arseny Solokha , Jonathan Wakely , richard.sandiford@arm.com, Bernd Edlinger Subject: Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back Message-ID: <20200402160044.GA7609@cgf.cx> Mail-Followup-To: Overseers mailing list , Arseny Solokha , Jonathan Wakely , richard.sandiford@arm.com, Bernd Edlinger References: <20200325185527.GB8416@cgf.cx> <20200326151602.GA8097@cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1162.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_SPF_HELO, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 16:00:48 -0000 [gcc mailing list removed] On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 12:01:59PM +0200, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >On 4/2/20 11:48 AM, Richard Sandiford wrote: >> Sorry for the confusion :-) > >No problem, I know who you are. So do I. Hi Richard! >But if I write a mail I spend a lot of time for it, and if it bounces, >that work is lost. This makes a bad start, and the first impression >usually decides a lot in our lives. Thunderbird, and most other email clients, have a "Sent" folder so this is just ridiculous. I'm not going to respond to most of the other points. Having a public discussion about someone's inconvenience with my email address is silly. I will reiterate the that if there are issues with marc.info, or any other non-sourceware.org mailing list archiver they need to be addressed with the non-sourceware.org entity. If there are issues with email received from sourceware.org/gcc.gnu.org like attachments looking funny, then, of course, we will want to hear about them. We care if email doesn't show up in our subscribers inbox or if the sourceware.org/gcc.gnu.org archives are incorrect. We don't care if attachments look wrong on sites over which we have no control. We don't care if email isn't showing up on other archiving sites. We would certainly listen to concerns from the owners of other sites but there are no guarantees that we would change anything to make their lives easier. That's not how this works. Your valid point about http vs. https has been corrected. Future attachments will show https. We'll schedule a mailing list archive rebuild at some point to fix the rest. Thanks for bringing that issue to our attention.