From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7442C395C41A; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:32:07 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 7442C395C41A Received: from gate.crashing.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id 03NKW1Ra001493; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:32:01 -0500 Received: (from segher@localhost) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id 03NKW1vQ001492; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:32:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: gate.crashing.org: segher set sender to segher@kernel.crashing.org using -f Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:32:00 -0500 From: Segher Boessenkool To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Cc: Jeff Law , Tamar Christina , "overseers@gcc.gnu.org" , Jonathan Wakely via Gcc , Overseers mailing list , Alexander Monakov , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Florian Weimer , Tom Tromey Subject: Re: Not usable email content encoding Message-ID: <20200423203200.GS26902@gate.crashing.org> References: <87zhccsdfd.fsf@tromey.com> <87imj0pjbr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87blosphsw.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <20200423114627.GG26902@gate.crashing.org> <20200423165743.GA27372@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200423165743.GA27372@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, TXREP, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR, T_SPF_PERMERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:32:08 -0000 Hi! On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:57:43PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > *Nothing* should touch changelog files :-) They should be generated from the > > VCS. IMHO of course. > > IMHO: the VCS should be the changelog. The VCS shows what changed. The changelog shows what was meant to be changed. The difference is very helpful for reviewers, and for post-mortem purposes, etc. This can be more than compensated for if submitters would write better patch descriptions, of course. But will that happen? Segher