From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gnu.wildebeest.org (gnu.wildebeest.org [45.83.234.184]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D6E34BA2E18; Sun, 12 Apr 2026 19:20:53 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 9D6E34BA2E18 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=klomp.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klomp.org ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 9D6E34BA2E18 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=45.83.234.184 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1776021653; cv=none; b=xm74REmrQoEGu2NDnMIkAUiNPBKhb6F4Zjq3DgOcgO3QQlj9cihSMn7o2EoBTb8kSgWy5sqviTeV27O2toWWwDUm3Mcx8kuP2SB8xxg/Jdbof/GTyLQxEEJJjIAOtN9BdUJ9EKVg9LlaMR9DGioyi569YFDqjGnoM3HjsXcIqCU= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1776021653; c=relaxed/simple; bh=iJC4rCcxwQHZYn8pMHXHxrot5t5JXCGyGwEvr8Kj6so=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=MO4S4fQen+jheikp1xFONFOZEGZv5fkWwj2C0+LjbvxL6RLyh6JIolSFwIOc0n5+32MYR3XFrF/qn4ZJRdn6Jbvu6hct+VvzDXQk7eTwyGKZojOS0CYm+WWm2vvQBumMl21nm6y5dd56xHdA5EAXblVLmKZhGO5PTO5FoxWuyDY= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 9D6E34BA2E18 Received: by gnu.wildebeest.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6FBE3032F85; Sun, 12 Apr 2026 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2026 21:20:52 +0200 From: Mark Wielaard To: overseers@sourceware.org Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org Subject: Re: Sourceware Survey results and Budget priority discussions Message-ID: <20260412192052.GA15385@gnu.wildebeest.org> References: <20260409141849.GD7048@gnu.wildebeest.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260409141849.GD7048@gnu.wildebeest.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on sourceware.org List-Id: On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 04:18:49PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > The results of the Sourceware Survey 2026 are in! > https://sourceware.org/survey-2026 > > And since tomorrow is the second Friday of the month it is also > Sourceware Open Office time! > > Come and lets discuss the Survey results and see what they mean for > our Budget priorities this year. For those that couldn't attend: - Discussed upgrading forgejo and moving the forge to a bigger faster virtual machine (vm02) in the new datacenter this weekend. The new setup is like the forge-stage setup, so it will be easier to move to an Ansible setup and more admins can help out. [This has now been completed, please yell and scream if https://forge.sourceware.org is acting up after the transfer.] - https://sourceware.org/survey-2026 The survey ran from Friday, 20 March to Friday, 3 April. There were 84 responses. Which amounts to ~20% of "active developers", depending how you define that (there are ~400 people with ssh/gitolite push access, if you ignore those that have been explicitly disabled because of non-activity). Of those that responded ~70% are active committers, ~60% has a bugzilla account, ~31% edit wikis, ~30% have editbugs rights, ~26% has a forge account, 20% has a patchwork account, ~12% are bugzilla admins and ~13% are admins/list moderators. - There was various actionable feedback to help contributors feel engaged and maybe become more regular contributors. The most requested initiative (26%) was Forgejo process improvements. The least requested were hardware keys (11%). But it wasn't clear if people had fully read the plans descriptions at https://sourceware.org/sourceware-security-vision.html#plans One of the issues discussed was what a dedicated sysadmin could do for us. So we probably should expand the written out plans a bit and integrate the other feedback. - Cygwin has some requirements no other project as because they want to produce Windows binaries. But we currently don't have a Windows buildbot builder to move off using Appveyor and GitHub (issue for some contributors). Also there is no CodeSign support. We will discuss options with OSUOSL and Conservancy. - Good to see ~10% has donated to Sourceware https://sourceware.org/donate last year we estimated that to replace/renew hardware we would need ~3 years. It looks like we can fill out hardware fund in just ~1 year. - Next up is updating our budget proposals with the new feedback and create a write up for our individual/corporate/grant organizations and donors to present with the new (financial) year overview (which starts May 15th). - For the forge Claudio is working on the big patch set for "Send all PR discussion to mailing list" https://forge.sourceware.org/forge/batrachomyomachia/issues/15 Done is the functionality that deals with the situations where people perform reviews, explicitly ask for review, send a command and send a single comment. Todo is when a pull request is closed and a summary must be sent and a manual "send everything to the mailing list" to deal with all the existing closed pull requests.