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From: Jonathan Larmour <jifl@eCosCentric.com>
To: Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com>
Cc: overseers@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: removing login rights from non-overseers
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C8CF64.9060906@eCosCentric.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0406102247340.60912@acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>

Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Jonathan Larmour wrote:
> 
>><fx: butts in :-)>
>>
>>Perhaps a cron job that does something like:
>>
>>8 * * * * sh -c "sleep 15 ; cd cvs ; cvs -q up gccadmin.crontab ; crontab
>>gccadmin.crontab" &
>>
>>where the cvs directory contains a checkout where CVSROOT was set to /cvs/gcc
> 
> 
> If you do it fully automatically, anyone with CVS write access can
> obtain gccadmin shell access on sourceware

Shrug... anything that involves having a gccadmin crontab which some people 
can edit, means those people have sort of shell access.

But you're right, it would help if there was CVSROOT=/cvs/gccadmin and 
suitably responsible people in a gccadmin group then :-). Or even 
CVSROOT=/home/gccadmin/cvsroot with people in the gccadmin group and 
appropriate perms. With the power of security through obscurity[1] it's 
unlikely a hacker would realise the gccadmin crontab is a way to run commands.

Sudo is a lot simpler but does mean many people still retain complete and 
interactive shell access. But it's true that either way a Bad Person can 
work out how to run arbitrary commands. The only way to stop that is with 
restricted shells/interpreters which is a slog. Although an alternative 
which may be helpful enough is if a chrooted environment for the gccadmin 
account was set up.

> (and it might interfere
> if someone, like me, is currently working on some snapshot-related
> changes).

CVS resolves conflicts better than a free-for-all.

Jifl
[1] Why does no-one ever complain that passwords are merely security 
through obscurity?
-- 
eCosCentric    http://www.eCosCentric.com/    The eCos and RedBoot experts
--["No sense being pessimistic, it wouldn't work anyway"]-- Opinions==mine

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-10 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-09 12:32 Christopher Faylor
2004-06-09 12:38 ` Jonathan Larmour
2004-06-09 12:43   ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-10 20:43     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-06-10 20:46       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-06-10 20:52         ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-10 20:59           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-06-10 22:05             ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-18 13:40               ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-06-22  7:29                 ` Christopher Faylor
2004-07-04 21:52                   ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-07-04 22:22                     ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-10 21:15           ` Jonathan Larmour
2004-06-10 21:29             ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-06-10 22:11               ` Jonathan Larmour [this message]
2004-06-10 22:23                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-06-10 22:25                   ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-11  0:59                     ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-06-10 22:25                   ` Angela Marie Thomas
2004-06-11  1:00                     ` Christopher Faylor
2004-06-11  1:32                       ` Ian Lance Taylor

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