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([2601:281:8300:73::d31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o2-20020a027402000000b0034c14a6ea76sm54208jac.51.2022.09.29.11.40.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Project To: Overseers mailing list Cc: Joseph Myers , Jonathan Corbet References: <87v8p6i6ht.fsf@meer.lwn.net> From: Elena Zannoni Message-ID: <5bf44616-0ef7-62f5-d8bf-77106cdb4d74@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 12:40:45 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_SHORT,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 9/29/22 11:13 AM, Joseph Myers via Overseers wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2022, Jonathan Corbet via Overseers wrote: > >> Just for the record, it is still my feeling that the LF's infrastructure >> management has been a good thing for the kernel community. Whether it >> would be suitable for the toolchain community is not something I'm in a >> position to have an opinion on. If anybody is curious about how >> interactions with that group work, there is a current discussion on >> bugzilla that might be interesting: >> >> https://lwn.net/ml/ksummit-discuss/05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info/ > > Regarding Bugzilla, also see the GTI TAC meeting (24 Aug 2022) recording > at 23:37 to 25:44. It's not clear what good solutions are right now for > free software issue tracking, taking into account considerations such as: > > * easy for anyone to submit and comment on bugs; > > * protection against spam bug and comment submission (which is in tension > with easy bug submission; we have restricted account creation, with people > needing to email overseers to create an account on sourceware Bugzilla at > all, or to email gcc-bugzilla-account-request to create an account on GCC > Bugzilla from a large number of common email domains in which spammers can > easily create accounts); > > * configurability of the fields and values of those fields and other logic > used in the bug tracker; > > * ability to get a local copy of the tracker data (this is an area where > Bugzilla is weak; you can probably do something with the REST API, but > it's not designed to make it easy for someone to keep a local copy of all > the data up to date the way git is); > > * being an actively maintained project (that also being a concern for > Bugzilla). > BTW, I am just noticing an announcement to revive Bugzilla that came out in the last month or so: https://lists.bugzilla.org/pipermail/developers/2022-August/010231.html elena