From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gnu.wildebeest.org (gnu.wildebeest.org [45.83.234.184]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 214C23858C54 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 10:51:47 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 214C23858C54 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=klomp.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klomp.org Received: from tarox.wildebeest.org (83-87-18-245.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.87.18.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gnu.wildebeest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB8D6302AB2C; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tarox.wildebeest.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0F7E403DCA4; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5f79459a60067ef06fb7941199dc1c58465ef131.camel@klomp.org> Subject: Re: proposing Sourceware as Software Freedom Conservancy member project From: Mark Wielaard To: overseers@sourceware.org Cc: Corinna Vinschen Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:51:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-10.el7) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi Corinna, On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 20:45 +0200, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote: > On Aug 30 14:03, Frank Ch. Eigler via Overseers wrote: > > This year, we set up a roadmap to improve the services for tracking > > and automation of email based patches and testing > > https://inbox.sourceware.org/overseers/YrLdfDWzq1T4k5xg@wildebeest.org/ > > This resulted in the launch of several new or updated services > > (builder.sourceware.org, patchwork.sourceware.org and > > inbox.sourceware.org). This didn't need any additional funds (except > > for the sourcehut mirror which costs $10 a month). We are proud to > > operate these services with minimal costs so we can sustain them both > > in good and in bad years. But that doesn't mean everything has to be > > done on a zero budget. Financial contributions are more than welcome > > so that if the need arises we can contract for some unusual admin > > stuff or additions to services like bugzilla, buildbot, patchwork, > > public-inbox or sourcehut. >=20 > I'd like to raise my finger here. As you probably know well, Cygwin > has very little need for official services like the above. Of course you don't need to use any of them if you don't need them. All the cygwin mailinglists are now also included in the public-inbox instance at https://inbox.sourceware.org/ (so also accessible through git, atom, imap and nntp) but that doesn't change anything about the existing mailinglist setups. And you can ignore patchwork and builder if you don't need them. But they are there in case you do. > Apart from > website, git, and mailing list, we especially require the handcrafted > services for our Windows-centric package management of our distro. > We're maintaining this stuff pretty much self-sufficiently for a long > time. I take it this can continue and will still be supported in > future? Of course! Like Frank already said "we contemplate no necessary technical change or disruption of any sort, including to operations, governance, or hosted project procedures or licensing. It would be solely a way to help future needs by providing routing for financial contributions, and have an official, charitable entity (with a real legal existence) for supporting sourceware.org." Thanks, Mark