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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.12.0 Subject: Re: Toolchain Infrastructure project statement of support Content-Language: en-US To: Ian Kelling , Overseers mailing list , gdb@sourceware.org, Mark Wielaard , libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <2513b668-9ebd-9e78-7263-dc24f4a9558a@redhat.com> <20221013182529.sm76fysq37sv754x@cgf.cx> <9c0a9111-07b1-3617-c5c8-4b12e616f985@gotplt.org> <7abeb179-2c05-eee9-bd68-3b5f8a11bd32@gotplt.org> <87zgdmyg30.fsf@fsf.org> <230909ee-fb2c-cca0-abbe-fd7d6434efab@gotplt.org> <20221023205709.lxlhwq7nrxcojjyn@cgf.cx> From: Siddhesh Poyarekar In-Reply-To: <20221023205709.lxlhwq7nrxcojjyn@cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1011.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 2022-10-23 16:57, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 02:25:29PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Re: https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q4/018981.html >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 12:43:09PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >>> The GNU Toolchain project leadership supports the proposal[1] to move the >>> services for the GNU Toolchain to the Linux Foundation IT under the auspices of >>> the Toolchain Infrastructure project (GTI) with fiscal sponsorship from the >>> OpenSSF and other major donors. >> >> Noted, however, a list of signatories does not automatically confer >> authority over any particular project.  Any participation from >> overseers in moving projects to different infrastructure will require >> clear approval from the individual projects themselves. >> >> Also, the FSF, being the existing fiscal sponsor to these projects, >> surely needs to review the formal agreements before we sunset our >> infrastructural offerings to glibc, gcc, binutils, and gdb and hand >> control of the projects' infrastructure over to a different entity. >> >> We'd like to assure the communities that, when and if any individual >> project formally expresses the decision of their developers to transfer >> their services, we'll endeavor to make the move as smooth as possible. >> Those projects that wish to stay will continue to receive the best >> services that the overseers can offer, with the ongoing assistance of >> Red Hat, the SFC, and, when relevant, the FSF tech team. > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 09:27:26AM -0400, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >> Given that the current sourceware admins have decided to block migration of >> all sourceware assets to the LF IT, I don't have a stake on how they'd like >> to handle this for sourceware. I could however, as a member of TAC (and as >> member of projects that have agreed to migrate to LF IT, i.e. gcc and glibc), >> discuss with others the possibility of specific community volunteers being >> given some amount of access to manage infrastructure. > > Stop spreading FUD. The "we" in my statement above, from October 13, > included fche, mjw, and myself. You have no reason to be confused on > this subject. > Nope, I'm not spreading FUD, in fact that statement of yours is perfectly consistent with what I've said: the blocker at the moment is that the sourceware overseers have refused to hand over the server *in its entirety* to LF IT, not that any projects themselves have refused to move their services to LF IT. I don't doubt that the overseers will help in smooth migration for projects that eventually state that they wish to move over. Sid