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* Maciej W. Rozycki:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc wrote:
>
>> > > So, a request: Could the overseers either install more effective
>> > > spam protection for the list as a whole (preferred)
>> 
>> Heh, if only it were that easy!  Spam filtering was and is distinct
>> from mailing list processing, and as you know it's a constant arms
>> race.  We're working hard to make the new installation of spamassassin
>> as discriminating as possible.  We're also working on the workflow to
>> clean the web archives of spam that got through.
>
>  Spam bouncing is evil and often hits an innocent person whose address has 
> been faked by the sender of spam, making the source of bounces not better 
> than the originator.

I expect this to be an SMTP-level rejection, not a bounce.  sourceware
generates a bounce from that, and Mailman reacts to that.  But the
target mail server does not generate a bounce.  So your concern about
bad ISP behavior does not apply here.