From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.fsf.org (mail.fsf.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::13]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED613858D38 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 01:24:11 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 7ED613858D38 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=fsf.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=fsf.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsf.org; s=mail-fsf-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From:References; bh=T+tGLomkR7mpVvqTIM9QCaoiB6bQgt+jtRv/pSG+mFM=; b=VVKADC/nfSFcvSWRT84yL4fcG 1Cue0L0F0QBllzaU8yGEKvrlJIDwZOTTrRyrEzI26Y4i4x+SEJqmd8zbvzrG536ijuN/0Qj3kdoNM eT+LS4+btUjPtMUwHRXKpuaBJ2fymqbZGUHvtFTfxxyHgtgaUiEEzR1/ioLvXpa+aACqom33LFpna gyT85+GJhoUd1iDzWnBWvd0QjQyyUYCKvfqgVYhs2y5c6k8cI3Xy233LJ3SxuAbAK2Qjru/+t6GkY i6F5drxpl/OiimFSR+HhCCV/Azyuey83B/I1NkZujIjD13IuitS/TFY+uvfvUiCQbhUjlr8ZAz2Q2 xFK6gMr9g==; References: <87wn9xv1p7.fsf@fsf.org> <87bkr8jyqg.fsf@ebb.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.9.0; emacs 29.0.50 From: Ian Kelling To: Overseers mailing list Cc: "Bradley M. Kuhn" Subject: Re: BBB instances Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:03:43 -0400 In-reply-to: <87bkr8jyqg.fsf@ebb.org> Message-ID: <87pmfm993a.fsf@fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: FSF is working on helping BBB to move databases. In hindsight, my post was off-hand and alarmist, and partly plain wrong: I assumed that a free version of mongo wouldn't work with the latest BBB. After posting, I actually tested it, and the latest version of BBB (2.5) actually can be used with a free version of mongodb, (i tried 3.6, which I think is fine to run for many years from now, even if it is in an older distro chroot). Thank you to Bradley and SFC for documenting the freedom fix for BBB 2.3 ( https://k.sfconservancy.org/conservancy-bigbluebutton ). I note that BBB 2.3 still has an indefinite support timeline, so it is a fine version to use. I'll be working on getting that and the BBB 2.5 freedom fix upstreamed. As Bradley suggested, if you know about this issue, BBB is fine. At FSF, we evaluated Jitsi a few years ago and found BBB to be more reliable, a bit more scalable, and have more features geared toward presentations and teaching, and we plan to keep using it including for LibrePlanet 2023. With my personal FSF sysadmin hat on, I look forward to more and ongoing collaboration with Sourceware and SFC. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org