Re: Choice of distribution for new sourceware.org server?

[Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>]

On 2/6/20 10:19 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Hi -
> 
>> Awesome. Do you need any help with regular evaluations? Is there a meeting
>> for that? Or is this tactically driven when something can't be upgraded?
> 
> We evaluate when people want to evaluate, as we are doing right now.

Understood.

>> I'm surprised the wiki is non-distro software. I recently setup a dokuwiki
>> backed by git, and it was all distro-software with just configuration data.
> 
> What's a "dokuwiki"?  Yum list doesn't know it.  We use ikiwiki (a
> git-backed wiki system) for one of the wikis on sourceware, and I like
> it a lot.  ikiwiki is not a RHEL product either.

It's in Fedora, I had not checked for availability in RHEL 8 AppStream or EPEL.

dnf search dokuwiki
Last metadata expiration check: 1:36:11 ago on Thu 06 Feb 2020 08:46:10 AM EST.
=========================== Name Exactly Matched: dokuwiki ===========================
dokuwiki.noarch : Standards compliant simple to use wiki
========================== Name & Summary Matched: dokuwiki ==========================
dokuwiki-selinux.noarch : SELinux support for dokuwiki

Dokuwiki is an actively maintained wiki with plugins and good internationalization.
https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki

ikiwiki doesn't seem as feature rich as dokuwiki, nor does it seem to have as active
a development community, or wide usage? The plugins for dokuwiki are quite useful
and the community has support for git, markdown, captchas, etc.
 
>> Moinmoin is basically dead upstream.
>> Dokuwiki is actively maintained and there are migration paths from moinmoin
>> to dokuwiki.
>> And I would switch to gitolite [...]
> 
> The way that we can make use of ideas like this is for someone to go
> beyond suggest them to actually try things out, consult with the
> respective user base, install, popularize, transition, watch over it
> all, and ideally help shut it down when that time comes.  IOW, there
> is no shortage of other tools we -could- run.  What is short is
> interest & commitment in doing all that work.

Understood.

>> This would also allow us to restrict shell access to only those that
>> ask for it and thus limit our security exposure (best practice).
> 
> Our shell access is already restricted.

Can non-administrators login to the system via ssh? Why?
 
>> [RHEL8 vs CentOS]
> 
> Luckily, we have until 2029 to work through the details either way.

I don't follow. Could you expand on this please?

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.