Re: Spam, bounces and gcc list removal

[Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>]

Am 21.03.20 um 21:29 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc:
> Hi -
> 
>>> since the change to the new list management, there has been
>>> an uptick of spam getting through. Spam is bounced by my ISP,
>>> and this just resulted in a warning that there were too many
>>> bounces and that I would get removed from the list unless I
>>> confirmed it (which I then did).
>> This has now happened a second time, and this question
> 
> For my reference, could you forward one of these spams & bounces to me?

I never got to see them, because they never made it past my ISP.

>>> So, a request: Could the overseers either install more effective
>>> spam protection for the list as a whole (preferred)
> 
> Heh, if only it were that easy!  Spam filtering was and is distinct
> from mailing list processing, and as you know it's a constant arms
> race.  We're working hard to make the new installation of spamassassin
> as discriminating as possible.  We're also working on the workflow to
> clean the web archives of spam that got through.

That makes it even less likely that I will be able to provide you with
a sample, unfortunately.

Maybe it would be better just to look at the logfiles?  You will
probably see a

  550 5.7.1 Refused by local policy. No SPAM please!

or similar there.

>>> or relax the limit on bounces?
> 
> OK, there are a couple of settings over at:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/mailman/admin/gcc/bounce
> that law and we can think about, but I'd like
> to see the messages in question to figure out what happened.

Maybe it is possible to do it like the old mail system did:

If there were too many bounces, it sent a probe, if that didn't
bounce, nothing more happened.

That worked OK, the current system does not.

Regards

	Thomas