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Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:33:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back To: Arseny Solokha , Jonathan Wakely , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , richard.sandiford@arm.com, overseers@sourceware.org References: <23b63bb3-9156-5a28-30b0-8fe557b33df1@gmx.com> <20200325185527.GB8416@cgf.cx> <20200326151602.GA8097@cgf.cx> From: Bernd Edlinger Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:33:49 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ClientProxiedBy: AM0PR07CA0027.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10a6:208:ac::40) To AM6PR03MB5170.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (2603:10a6:20b:ca::23) X-Microsoft-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (92.77.140.102) by AM0PR07CA0027.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10a6:208:ac::40) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2878.12 via Frontend Transport; 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We don't control it. If you have questions about their >>>>> site then ask them. >>>>> >>>>> The mailing list software is all easily discernible by investigating >>>>> email headers and via google but someone else answered your questions >>>>> later in this thread. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But don't you think that we change something in 6.3 to make them break. >>>> like no longer sending updates, or something? >>>> >>>> Don't you have any idea what changed on our side? >>>> >>>> I mean what should I tell them they should do to fix that????? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Ah, marc.info is fixed, it turned out that the messages were just Quarantined >>> because due to the change in the ip adresses, mailing software etc. >>> marc.info was under the impression that all these messages were just spam. >>> >>> That is what they told me: >>> >>> "For lists that often get spammed, we set up some silent header-checks >>> so that mails that don't look like they came from the real listserver >>> get quarrantined, and don't appear when viewing that list. >>> >>> Well, that can break when mailing list software changes - like when they >>> switched away from ezmlm to Mailman. >>> >>> I've updated our filter check and un-quarrantined about 4500 mails to >>> various gcc- lists that landed there this month." >>> >>> So indeed all our mailing list message are again on marc.info, >>> I think when it can handle lkml it can handle gcc-patches as well. >>> >>> Many Thanks go to Hank Leininger who does a gread job with marc.info. >>> >>> >>> Bernd. >>> >> >> PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists >> that must be fixed by our overseers. >> >> That is the scubbed attachments. >> >> As an example please look at this one: >> https://marc.info/?l=gdb-patches&m=158571308379946&w=2 >> >> >> you see this: >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 0001-Fix-range-end-handling-of-inlined-subroutines.patch >> Type: text/x-patch >> Size: 10992 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> >> So there are two serious problems here: >> >> 1. there is a single point of failure, if sourceware.org goes down the attachment is lost. >> >> 2. since the url is http: a man in the middle can impersonate sourceware.org and give you a >> virus instead of my patch file. >> It does not help that sourceware.org redirects the download to https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/attachments/20200313/5158bb87/attachment.bin >> an attacker will not be so polite to do that. >> >> >> @overseeers: PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY THAT SCRUBBING >> >> can you act now, or do you need a CVE number first ? > > The overseers are reachable on: > > https://sourceware.org/mailman/listinfo/overseers > > Please keep the tone civil. I hope we never see the day where the GCC/ > sourceware lists have to have a code of conduct, but if we did, I think > some of the messages on this thread would have breached it. > > Thanks, > Richard > Thanks, for reminding me. I do personally full-heatedly apologize, and regret what I said above. I am sorry if I made you feel bad. That was not the true intention of what I said. I asked Hank Leininger for clarification how mark.info subscribes the mails, and what data he gets exactly from us. I am still waiting for his response, and let you know what he says. In the meantime, culd you please change http: to https: Thanks Bernd.