From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-f41.google.com (mail-ej1-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 829F9386F460 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 14:01:49 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 829F9386F460 Received: by mail-ej1-f41.google.com with SMTP id x1so4640638ejd.8 for ; Thu, 07 May 2020 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=THiMr2PD99nHjEH+b7JKAq+5SCqxruQvFHUB0PD2zqM=; b=dW2XhPZCB6+wZMdp0tFXJjwcZ0Fo3UUnLWkPnjriRW1eRPp1Qt7JInJ0fpFgAGpIfP Nvd1kQpk8VHVN7FHui03VCdXoE3Om8G8n67+i2f8ZzNAHZo9Mvd0uPHsBF8XOvMdcI9V gdbaS+L6NmxV2ERygVJjPKtUrTAyFNVc+JoQ+GzBkJ8BLoDQkUSl1FEF6dIuv4Bk0GVY ru53ARd0KvTQq4yPAQC4LJiy06zy8cdtJk6+RQLiY+Ae4i/hUG47JL3mqGhn802mNDvo gFQWIlGlGvHKDgjiy7cP1JXqWYozTR2prOn/9HnLsZkkUoiagVITsAe8P+tNeDaUEtpR ohhw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYCW/0Je7AUYmOWJ5yWThAwahH35ZyRVaS+NekB7Qhr5AsCyyFp Mj15tAxLTnf1488PhwlYsT7iqfud X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK/XI+Yt2RDpAxBlyCesaKZuMGAD/vlEHzoj0p3r+agpBcy8pJNZ+RffEm+WBiq5sekRBE1IA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2142:: with SMTP id rk2mr9771833ejb.225.1588860108225; Thu, 07 May 2020 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ej1-f45.google.com (mail-ej1-f45.google.com. [209.85.218.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o2sm611410eja.68.2020.05.07.07.01.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 May 2020 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f45.google.com with SMTP id nv1so4674787ejb.0 for ; Thu, 07 May 2020 07:01:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1199:: with SMTP id n25mr12651214eja.30.1588860104579; Thu, 07 May 2020 07:01:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <58399b8fc5726a977ed2c26a2ff18b84acfccba1.camel@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <58399b8fc5726a977ed2c26a2ff18b84acfccba1.camel@redhat.com> Reply-To: joel@rtems.org From: Joel Sherrill Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 09:01:34 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ancient Archives of ftp.sourceware.org? To: Jeffrey Law Cc: Overseers mailing list X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 14:02:00 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:30 PM Jeff Law wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:44 -0500, Joel Sherrill via Overseers wrote: > > Hi > > > > May 4th was the 25th birthday of the oldest commit in the RTEMS > repository. > > Before that, there was a private repo for the research project that > > produced it. We started the public repository from the last snapshot. > > > > In those dark years of the early Internet, ftp.sourceware.org? had > RTEMS on > > it. Cygnus even included a version on a floppy they sent out. I scanned > the > > letter, envelope, and put the floppy contents online ( > > https://ftp.rtems.org/pub/rtems/people/joel/CygnusFloppyAugust1995/). I > had > > to buy a USB floppy drive to read the floppy. Enjoy that flashback. :) > > > > As we approach the 30th anniversary of the first public paper on RTEMS, > I'd > > love to find some really old versions. The version on that floppy is the > > oldest one we have. > > > > Is there any chance, there are easily accessible old, old, dusty versions > > of ftp.sourceware.org? from before 1995? > I don't think sourceware was born until 1997/1998 ;-) > > Over time we've tried to populate it with old releases as they're found. > Wow! How was newlib distributed back in the dark pre-sourceware age? I know we used it before 97/98 and got it via ftp. I went to https://sourceware.org/newlib/ and the link to the ftp site is broken. I think that should be https://www.sourceware.org/ftp/newlib/ but the links for all the downloads are ftp also and don't work. But it was enough to see that newlib 1.6 is from 1994 which is back when Rob Savoye maintained it. I kept his business card from back then because I thought Hacker was a cool job title. :) --joel > > Jeff > >