From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 127885 invoked by alias); 31 May 2017 11:54:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 127215 invoked by uid 89); 31 May 2017 11:54:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS,URIBL_RED autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=filing, tactic, bless, antispam X-HELO: mail-qt0-f172.google.com Received: from mail-qt0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-qt0-f172.google.com) (209.85.216.172) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 May 2017 11:54:23 +0000 Received: by mail-qt0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v27so9712118qtg.2 for ; Wed, 31 May 2017 04:54:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rLJjrRxYNPPkZ5Ya4XkQ0IbFVV1dMMiTszrrrnHIq9M=; b=KtL4RlHxlrss9cMH7LkQPJLjXKTKczwRC7GhHlC0D2Ia5snjrqQe+Dm/NpDNVIiqsl EMU5Qf56Tj9f3M399p+OxhLou2PaQkIy2EWividf9KPTCFhdsOhwRmxPmbpwNMnE+BQP UJJWZBf9VSymKeJaPpuol6v6eJAsb6yHI3Fc6n7qZ66MeNKEcFxj6zZW0bYgqyajOcSG 5ffdtYZ+7LU4XZwjZ3ZRceRCfhLWXEGN3/xk6ZZDwFvF++H26Quv7L8Rhe55lzLpxzLt 6l1yJ7doLyzE3vZczFHs+V2751LfJnHEo+AuBo4pqxbpEeSztYV9KRN42wvUXcanPsJg Z2ng== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcC7G0xsgiLJD5DN0DDq9BbcOr7+xVosaEkI56suXZ1xulp3/U0g nOnX/FaHDbmosoxtWdN4DNAd4UtiNA== X-Received: by 10.237.62.229 with SMTP id o34mr29217378qtf.4.1496231666197; Wed, 31 May 2017 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.185.172 with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2017 04:54:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1f9b4a90-04ad-d0c8-cb2f-13ed34ce96f2@redhat.com> From: David Edelsohn Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 11:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GCC Bugzilla accounts To: Overseers , "Joseph S. Myers" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SW-Source: 2017-q2/txt/msg00092.txt.bz2 On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > Joseph Myers writes: > >> On Thu, 25 May 2017, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> >>> Instead there we allow users to create all of their own accounts, but by >>> default you don't get editbugs. You have to have someone grant you editbugs, >>> and that can be done by anyone else who previously had editbugs, so you can >>> just email the list and someone will quickly bless you. >>> >>> Is the account creation still an anti-spam tactic? >>> >>> I think it's a terrible one, the editbugs removal seems to have worked much >>> better. Now spammers cant change any existing bugs. They can still file >>> new bugs, which we can zap entirely. >> >> Spammers were filing new spam bugs about as fast as contrib/mark_spam.py >> could mark them as spam. > > Personally, I think the ideal approach would be if bugzilla supported a > moderation strategy. Anybody could create an account, but the first > time they filed a bug, or commented on a bug, their change would be held > for moderation. If a moderator approved a change, their subsequent > changes would flow automatically. If the moderator blocked the change, > the account would be disabled. Then we would only require a few people > to periodically moderate new bugzilla users. > > But that is just a wish. I have no reason to believe that bugzilla > supports this approach. What are the next steps to improve the GCC Bugzilla account creation process to reduce the number of users and bug reporters who are driven away? Thanks, David