From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com (mail-lf1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::133]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B3F13858404 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:01:46 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 9B3F13858404 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linaro.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linaro.org ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 9B3F13858404 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::133 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713430917; cv=none; b=H2e30HI/Pi2/ZFGwtPwV00kTpdQoRzOYKb5cO1+/pn3uS7SjreW2Zh6/ZvcE1Kg4JEonUbKnKSJbviwQFGJiDthkETZu6A34ROabP8T92D1uFcIYCdjr9N+zj99j/0BFBIr/yetuiyxl1B+a/cRZ2lgtAojERsYTZigmHTpAjLk= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713430917; c=relaxed/simple; bh=vCSWyvKhzwUW2vvx+qhI/J9pBICiu+3We87I/NxCQfM=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=RNVWI+lJd4yCAJp12FNdQxmTQU/CPUxYl0dafQuhlEeRosW68gT4vbopk1Is1CGQp3CBzfM/LlpDtMZovCKHuPkqR+Tzc3lzxxS4jUFam8iOpW8waCU6e7ZFGIfQ0SUqHCBjkjyNqCfFzu4TH99c3isVwqXmTOpCzXHVZnu9Qd4= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-518e2283bd3so797270e87.1 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; t=1713430905; x=1714035705; darn=sourceware.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4wxm1AlkY5CcmhFtT1am6YtKf9w3brebrEElnEXpvzY=; b=UidL6OeKEkrdAG8+OMjnzi74cTj01uFw67ixWgMQetXRL9BJdHQhPgvTEvHxfT3+qp RMfrCBg2T8EcTXYhOf6MINkay9vUGp6bVKNA8uClO7CHOUQoCPzt2Q/G0DccIK6BkQ0t 0Z98Q3ogmNrSL/6rnLVSp0/8KO9RXLmnVFnh3Tnnr7FYq4tsl+6dYPJgd0QLiDNPQ+y+ bX9NK6xD+E0nSZkZ0+bG4MvvT92WdseDmgLBstq38B00IWPrD7vE27iicnAvLqpYxkta lZZm5X1KNC9F7YKnBr8NiNTJwxTek3aUkWN9q5YjEwsU9i8ViV+b2rOwAyZzNB4HyvhY G9hw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713430905; x=1714035705; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4wxm1AlkY5CcmhFtT1am6YtKf9w3brebrEElnEXpvzY=; b=DWd376YfnDnpUSsjDUsIrT5q9JXN4xy138oSjF6xgSvAGZHYjaiMbELtcOyl+aBoaH 2bavL7xaGbioDB+spAmNTHwVr6G2LaYqaEhhcTvxkoXL3+Lk/c0L7hgKLRVX/2Sddmsp LfMxBWVL++M78YjSq21W6jLGm8Qpm5yWxwT8p/FXRdIfzc6jCTsvpNFHwbAPCsyiPl8l PJvHpPC5vXG5hbjxEHhUOxTPcwikI9EAkgQS3k1vv70iguyUR/sdRrRYKBE4jVvY37Tg rLjX50WqFVBlf/U+axq971keONHYx3SvGehWsf+ZgBH7WsA0f4UGdWe0C6frhFbVJf1c vewQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWFDPNcZUAm1o90qFQJI5LHoujUaCXsutxBQOYrpFiEPpOB5uAaXINf1XUezqPq/hRzuuwXBU/m3mdYH/TDq9xamBl4gScoJjs= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw2F+NZD+TMvQFN35GXzbLWB5i8tQ8MyN8E3Cel8L90A0l/U+iI 6Td1jRjfSsgvAQiCe/DCxPeJzoIWBNhGZknt5qswM6CdfqNNQLvklyBvUJu0PhwiO54bLSswNZO xxDhGRNyPqxzxk3vhNhXqvKsNZjhnVL3c8jeCSQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGmZ9ZMikhUEzpxSwopX47gnuK324o3g0F4eT+q9xXJwbeLCY7aG1KBHwEvMzeAzqdhBkvcj2g3LanEwWe+9jc= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4253:0:b0:518:c8e1:478 with SMTP id m19-20020ac24253000000b00518c8e10478mr1273463lfl.58.1713430904814; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:01:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417232725.GC25080@gnu.wildebeest.org> <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> <4353C519-D023-45B0-A254-C7274B7CFC6F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4353C519-D023-45B0-A254-C7274B7CFC6F@gmail.com> From: Christophe Lyon Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans To: FX Coudert Cc: Thomas Koenig , Mark Wielaard , overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi, On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 10:15, FX Coudert wrote: > > > I regenerate auto* files from time to time for libgfortran. Regeneratin= g > > them has always been very fragile (using --enable-maintainer-mode), > > and difficult to get right. > > I have never found them difficult to regenerate, but if you have only a n= on maintainer build, it is a pain to have to make a new maintainer build fo= r a minor change. > FWIW, we have noticed lots of warnings from autoreconf in libgfortran. I didn't try to investigate, since the regenerated files are identical to what is currently in the repo. For instance, you can download the "stdio" output from the autoregen.py step in https://builder.sourceware.org/buildbot/#/builders/269/builds/4373 Thanks, Christophe > Moreover, our m4 code is particularly painful to use and unreadable. I ha= ve been wondering for some time: should we switch to simpler Python scripts= ? It would also mean that we would have fewer files in the generated/ folde= r: right now, every time we add new combinations of types, we have a combin= atorial explosion of files. > > $ ls generated/sum_* > generated/sum_c10.c generated/sum_c17.c generated/sum_c8.c generated/sum= _i16.c generated/sum_i4.c generated/sum_r10.c generated/sum_r17.c generate= d/sum_r8.c > generated/sum_c16.c generated/sum_c4.c generated/sum_i1.c generated/sum= _i2.c generated/sum_i8.c generated/sum_r16.c generated/sum_r4.c > > We could imagine having a single file for all sum intrinsics. > > How do Fortran maintainers feel about that? > > FX