mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Joseph Meyers has filed a GNATS PR as a mail to overseers has not resulted
in a fix for the problem that we still refer to sources.redhat.com instead
of gcc.gnu.org for the libstdc++ mbox archives:

  http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view&pr=1022&database=gcc

I would have tried to fix this by myself, but the mailing list archives
still are physically located in the sourceware path (and I do not have
the appropriate permissions).

Could someone please physically move those three libstdc++ mailing lists
into the GCC web tree and change the permissions accordingly?

Thanks,
Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Could someone please have a look?

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Joseph Meyers has filed a GNATS PR as a mail to overseers has not resulted
> in a fix for the problem that we still refer to sources.redhat.com instead
> of gcc.gnu.org for the libstdc++ mbox archives:
>
>   http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view&pr=1022&database=gcc
>
> I would have tried to fix this by myself, but the mailing list archives
> still are physically located in the sourceware path (and I do not have
> the appropriate permissions).
>
> Could someone please physically move those three libstdc++ mailing lists
> into the GCC web tree and change the permissions accordingly?
>
> Thanks,
> Gerald

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.30.0012201146540.82364-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >
you write:
  > Could someone please have a look?
I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)

Same key you use for your normal access.

jeff

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
> the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
> this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)

I was afraid this would happen some day. ;-)

A couple of issues with the libstdc++ list archives I could now fix by
myself, but there is one task which I really don't want to touch (yet).


We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
/www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)

Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
as well.

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
> /www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
> decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)
>
> Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
> the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
> as well.

Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
brave tonight and moved the archives.

And, it seems to work. :-)

Now we'll be able to deal with the search engine etc. in a proper way...

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
> brave tonight and moved the archives.

Thanks!

> Now we'll be able to deal with the search engine etc. in a proper way...

I'm on it now.

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:38:41PM -0500, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
>> brave tonight and moved the archives.
>
>Thanks!

Ditto!

Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
somewhere?  As you probably know, there is a
http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/ web page which details a lot of
odds and ends for this.

If you have documented this maybe it belongs under the "Internal
notes/procedures" section.

cgf

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
> somewhere?

(It's WIP - not completed.)  Uhm, sometimes I send a note here... :-}

>  As you probably know, there is a
> http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/ web page which details a lot of
> odds and ends for this.

Or more specifically sourceware/search.html.  I'll add notes to that
page.

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
> somewhere?

No particular magic, I just regenerated the htdig databases.
It was already described, although the description was a bit out of date.
The ml archive notes needed a reference to updating the htdig db:s.
Check the latest changes to notes/htdig.html and notes/list-archives.html.

Oh, I see you were actually answering Gerald.

(Passing the ball on...)

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
>> somewhere?
> Oh, I see you were actually answering Gerald.
>
> (Passing the ball on...)

Okay, here we go:

<h2>How to move a mailing-list $LISTNAME from sources to gcc.gnu.org</h2>
<ol>
<li>Support both addresses, $LISTNAME@sources.redhat.com and
    $LISTNAME@gcc.gnu.org.<br>
    Jeff knows how to do that.
</li>
<li>mv /www/sourceware/ml/$LISTNAME /www/gcc/ml
</li>
<li>chgrp -R gcc $LISTNAME
</li>
<li>Edit /www/gcc/ml/$LISTNAME/$LISTNAME.mrc, specifically LIST-ADDRESS.
</li>
<li>Optional: Add a redirection to httpd.conf and restart httpd.
</li>

Would you mind adding this somewhere to the sourceware documentation?

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.31.0012240231200.78780-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >
you write:
  > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
  > > I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
  > > the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
  > > this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)
  > 
  > I was afraid this would happen some day. ;-)
:-)  It's primarily meant to be a convenience for you when the rest of us
are buried, out of town, etc.

  > We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
  > /www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
  > decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)
Looks like you took care of that.


  > Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
  > the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
  > as well.
/www/sourceware/ml & /www/gcc/ml are on the same filesystem, so a "mv" is
atomic.  The trick (of course) is the archiver.

One possibility is to turn off the mail system completely for a few minutes,
if we wanted absolute certainty that no messages were lost, that'd be the
best solution.  If we could survive missing a message or two, then just
editing the config files would be sufficient.

I note you've already done this work.  Thanks.

jeff

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
> somewhere?

No particular magic, I just regenerated the htdig databases.
It was already described, although the description was a bit out of date.
The ml archive notes needed a reference to updating the htdig db:s.
Check the latest changes to notes/htdig.html and notes/list-archives.html.

Oh, I see you were actually answering Gerald.

(Passing the ball on...)

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Could someone please have a look?

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Joseph Meyers has filed a GNATS PR as a mail to overseers has not resulted
> in a fix for the problem that we still refer to sources.redhat.com instead
> of gcc.gnu.org for the libstdc++ mbox archives:
>
>   http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view&pr=1022&database=gcc
>
> I would have tried to fix this by myself, but the mailing list archives
> still are physically located in the sourceware path (and I do not have
> the appropriate permissions).
>
> Could someone please physically move those three libstdc++ mailing lists
> into the GCC web tree and change the permissions accordingly?
>
> Thanks,
> Gerald

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:38:41PM -0500, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
>> brave tonight and moved the archives.
>
>Thanks!

Ditto!

Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
somewhere?  As you probably know, there is a
http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/ web page which details a lot of
odds and ends for this.

If you have documented this maybe it belongs under the "Internal
notes/procedures" section.

cgf

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
> brave tonight and moved the archives.

Thanks!

> Now we'll be able to deal with the search engine etc. in a proper way...

I'm on it now.

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.30.0012201146540.82364-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >
you write:
  > Could someone please have a look?
I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)

Same key you use for your normal access.

jeff

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
> the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
> this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)

I was afraid this would happen some day. ;-)

A couple of issues with the libstdc++ list archives I could now fix by
myself, but there is one task which I really don't want to touch (yet).


We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
/www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)

Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
as well.

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Hans-Peter Nilsson]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
> somewhere?

(It's WIP - not completed.)  Uhm, sometimes I send a note here... :-}

>  As you probably know, there is a
> http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/ web page which details a lot of
> odds and ends for this.

Or more specifically sourceware/search.html.  I'll add notes to that
page.

brgds, H-P

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
>> somewhere?
> Oh, I see you were actually answering Gerald.
>
> (Passing the ball on...)

Okay, here we go:

<h2>How to move a mailing-list $LISTNAME from sources to gcc.gnu.org</h2>
<ol>
<li>Support both addresses, $LISTNAME@sources.redhat.com and
    $LISTNAME@gcc.gnu.org.<br>
    Jeff knows how to do that.
</li>
<li>mv /www/sourceware/ml/$LISTNAME /www/gcc/ml
</li>
<li>chgrp -R gcc $LISTNAME
</li>
<li>Edit /www/gcc/ml/$LISTNAME/$LISTNAME.mrc, specifically LIST-ADDRESS.
</li>
<li>Optional: Add a redirection to httpd.conf and restart httpd.
</li>

Would you mind adding this somewhere to the sourceware documentation?

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Joseph Meyers has filed a GNATS PR as a mail to overseers has not resulted
in a fix for the problem that we still refer to sources.redhat.com instead
of gcc.gnu.org for the libstdc++ mbox archives:

  http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view&pr=1022&database=gcc

I would have tried to fix this by myself, but the mailing list archives
still are physically located in the sourceware path (and I do not have
the appropriate permissions).

Could someone please physically move those three libstdc++ mailing lists
into the GCC web tree and change the permissions accordingly?

Thanks,
Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
> /www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
> decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)
>
> Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
> the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
> as well.

Okay, after reading (all?) relevant scripts on gcc.gnu.org/sources I felt
brave tonight and moved the archives.

And, it seems to work. :-)

Now we'll be able to deal with the search engine etc. in a proper way...

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.31.0012240231200.78780-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >
you write:
  > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
  > > I'm not going to be able to look at it.  However, I did just add you to
  > > the folks that can log into the root account using ssh, so you can tackle
  > > this kind of stuff yourself (in your copious spare time :-)
  > 
  > I was afraid this would happen some day. ;-)
:-)  It's primarily meant to be a convenience for you when the rest of us
are buried, out of town, etc.

  > We must move the mail archives of libstdc++ from /www/sourceware/ml to
  > /www/gcc/ml, as apparently a couple of scripts use the directory to do
  > decide which domain name to add (for links to mbox archives, etc.)
Looks like you took care of that.


  > Doing a simply mv certainly is not hard, however one probably should stop
  > the mail system while doing that and update the archiving software config
  > as well.
/www/sourceware/ml & /www/gcc/ml are on the same filesystem, so a "mv" is
atomic.  The trick (of course) is the archiver.

One possibility is to turn off the mail system completely for a few minutes,
if we wanted absolute certainty that no messages were lost, that'd be the
best solution.  If we could survive missing a message or two, then just
editing the config files would be sufficient.

I note you've already done this work.  Thanks.

jeff

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Hi,

I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?

Tom, I suspect, will find this useful when moving the java mailing lists.

Gerald

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>>> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
>>> somewhere?
> Okay, here we go:
>
> <h2>How to move a mailing-list $LISTNAME from sources to gcc.gnu.org</h2>
> <ol>
> <li>Support both addresses, $LISTNAME@sources.redhat.com and
>     $LISTNAME@gcc.gnu.org.<br>
>     Jeff knows how to do that.
> </li>
> <li>mv /www/sourceware/ml/$LISTNAME /www/gcc/ml
> </li>
> <li>chgrp -R gcc $LISTNAME
> </li>
> <li>Edit /www/gcc/ml/$LISTNAME/$LISTNAME.mrc, specifically LIST-ADDRESS.
> </li>
> <li>Optional: Add a redirection to httpd.conf and restart httpd.
> </li>
>
> Would you mind adding this somewhere to the sourceware documentation?

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.31.0101261841060.4474-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >y
ou write:
  > Hi,
  > 
  > I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
  > someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?
I've got no objections.  Go ahead.
jeff

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
>> I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
>> someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?
> I've got no objections.  Go ahead.

Actually I wrote "mind adding", not "mind me adding". :-) :-)

But, I have now updated < http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/lists.html >
with all I now.

Perhaps you could fill in the "Jeff knows how to do this" part?

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Tom Tromey]

Gerald> I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double
Gerald> check. Would someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?

I've been planning to do this.

Gerald> Tom, I suspect, will find this useful when moving the java
Gerald> mailing lists.

I'm working on this today...

Tom

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
>> I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
>> someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?
> I've got no objections.  Go ahead.

Actually I wrote "mind adding", not "mind me adding". :-) :-)

But, I have now updated < http://sources.redhat.com/sourceware/lists.html >
with all I now.

Perhaps you could fill in the "Jeff knows how to do this" part?

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Gerald Pfeifer]

Hi,

I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?

Tom, I suspect, will find this useful when moving the java mailing lists.

Gerald

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>>> Did you happen to write down what you did so that we can document this
>>> somewhere?
> Okay, here we go:
>
> <h2>How to move a mailing-list $LISTNAME from sources to gcc.gnu.org</h2>
> <ol>
> <li>Support both addresses, $LISTNAME@sources.redhat.com and
>     $LISTNAME@gcc.gnu.org.<br>
>     Jeff knows how to do that.
> </li>
> <li>mv /www/sourceware/ml/$LISTNAME /www/gcc/ml
> </li>
> <li>chgrp -R gcc $LISTNAME
> </li>
> <li>Edit /www/gcc/ml/$LISTNAME/$LISTNAME.mrc, specifically LIST-ADDRESS.
> </li>
> <li>Optional: Add a redirection to httpd.conf and restart httpd.
> </li>
>
> Would you mind adding this somewhere to the sourceware documentation?

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Tom Tromey]

Gerald> I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double
Gerald> check. Would someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?

I've been planning to do this.

Gerald> Tom, I suspect, will find this useful when moving the java
Gerald> mailing lists.

I'm working on this today...

Tom

Re: mbox archives for libstdc++ lists

[Jeffrey A Law]

  In message < Pine.BSF.4.31.0101261841060.4474-100000@deneb.dbai.tuwien.ac.at >y
ou write:
  > Hi,
  > 
  > I haven't received any reply, so I though I'd better double check. Would
  > someone mind adding this to the sourceware site?
I've got no objections.  Go ahead.
jeff