Subversion and sources.redhat.com

Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Nick Clifton]

Hi Guys,

   What are your feelings on switching the CVS repositories on 
sources.redhat.com over to subversion ?

   I see that GCC is switching over to it, so presumably there are good 
reasons for doing so.  At the moment however I am only just beginning to 
learn how to use this tool, so I do not really know what is capable of 
or whether it really is worth replacing CVS with it.

Cheers
   Nick

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Ian Lance Taylor]

Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> writes:

>    What are your feelings on switching the CVS repositories on
> sources.redhat.com over to subversion ?

I think it sounds good to us.  It will be simpler if we have to
support only subversion, not CVS also.

>    I see that GCC is switching over to it, so presumably there are
> good reasons for doing so.  At the moment however I am only just
> beginning to learn how to use this tool, so I do not really know what
> is capable of or whether it really is worth replacing CVS with it.

That is your decision.  It made sense for the gcc developers.

Ian

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Nick Clifton]

Hi Ian,

>>    What are your feelings on switching the CVS repositories on
>> sources.redhat.com over to subversion ?
> 
> I think it sounds good to us.  It will be simpler if we have to
> support only subversion, not CVS also.

That seems fair.  I certainly have no objections to switching over - I 
just have to learn how to use Subversion, which I think will be a useful 
skill to glean anyway.

Is there a proposed plan for changing over or a timetable ?

Cheers
   Nick

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Ian Lance Taylor]

Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> writes:

> >>    What are your feelings on switching the CVS repositories on
> >> sources.redhat.com over to subversion ?
> > I think it sounds good to us.  It will be simpler if we have to
> > support only subversion, not CVS also.
> 
> That seems fair.  I certainly have no objections to switching over - I
> just have to learn how to use Subversion, which I think will be a
> useful skill to glean anyway.
> 
> Is there a proposed plan for changing over or a timetable ?

Not from the overseers side.  It's really entirely up to the
individual project maintainers.

It would probably be appropriate for their to be some coordination
among the projects who share the src repository (binutils, gdb,
cygwin, newlib).

Ian

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 07:31:58AM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> It would probably be appropriate for their to be some coordination
> among the projects who share the src repository (binutils, gdb,
> cygwin, newlib).

Absolutely.  I'd like everyone to change at once.  Two things to note:

  - Some of the GDB developers seem opposed.  I'm not real clear on
    why.

  - It might be nice to convert each project into its own svn
    repository, and make use of svn:externals.  I'm not sure if it's
    adequately flexible though.

The likely problem is that checking out less than the whole repository
in Subversion is much more awkward.  I don't want to have to check out
sid to build binutils.  Someone who cares about making the switch needs
to sit down and play with the options.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:54:55AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 07:31:58AM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> > It would probably be appropriate for their to be some coordination
> > among the projects who share the src repository (binutils, gdb,
> > cygwin, newlib).
> 
> Absolutely.  I'd like everyone to change at once.  Two things to note:
> 
>   - Some of the GDB developers seem opposed.  I'm not real clear on
>     why.
> 
>   - It might be nice to convert each project into its own svn
>     repository, and make use of svn:externals.  I'm not sure if it's
>     adequately flexible though.
> 
> The likely problem is that checking out less than the whole repository
> in Subversion is much more awkward.  I don't want to have to check out
> sid to build binutils.  Someone who cares about making the switch needs
> to sit down and play with the options.

No, svn:externals won't be a good fix for this problem; one is still
needed.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC

Re: Subversion and sources.redhat.com

[Joseph S. Myers]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

> No, svn:externals won't be a good fix for this problem; one is still
> needed.

Implementing relative externals 
<http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1336> would probably 
be necessary for svn:externals to be usable for this.  1167, 937 and 1258 
might be needed as well.

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