From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16640 invoked by alias); 12 Sep 2012 16:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16625 invoked by uid 22791); 12 Sep 2012 16:29:01 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_W,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from relay1.mentorg.com (HELO relay1.mentorg.com) (192.94.38.131) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:28:49 +0000 Received: from svr-orw-exc-10.mgc.mentorg.com ([147.34.98.58]) by relay1.mentorg.com with esmtp id 1TBpo0-0001Yi-5Y from joseph_myers@mentor.com ; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:28:48 -0700 Received: from SVR-IES-FEM-01.mgc.mentorg.com ([137.202.0.104]) by SVR-ORW-EXC-10.mgc.mentorg.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:28:48 -0700 Received: from digraph.polyomino.org.uk (137.202.0.76) by SVR-IES-FEM-01.mgc.mentorg.com (137.202.0.104) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.289.1; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:28:45 +0100 Received: from jsm28 (helo=localhost) by digraph.polyomino.org.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TBpnw-0003ZE-NS; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:28:44 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:29:00 -0000 From: "Joseph S. Myers" To: Jeff Law CC: Sourceware Overseers , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Angela Marie Thomas Subject: Re: sourceware hardware transition plan, part 1/N In-Reply-To: <5050B646.6010500@redhat.com> Message-ID: References: <20120907214632.GA27866@redhat.com> <504A8972.4080303@jifvik.org> <2B1B0D77-4005-4257-B43A-626F58912290@releasedominatrix.com> <20120910175659.GE8150@redhat.com> <20120910190039.GA3482@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20120912152859.GC22100@redhat.com> <20120912153724.GA25717@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <5050B646.6010500@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2012-q3/txt/msg00110.txt.bz2 On Wed, 12 Sep 2012, Jeff Law wrote: > Personally I'd tend to look to get the hardware move done first, then start > replacing software components as desired. But I haven't done any admin work That makes sense to me as well. The old hardware is a problem - the present system tends to be heavily overloaded. The old OS on the old hardware is a problem - various packages are too old to work well with current versions of some non-OS software such as Bugzilla. For the most part, the local choices of software components to use for various purposes are not problems in the same way. -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com