From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gnu.wildebeest.org (gnu.wildebeest.org [45.83.234.184]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1CBB3858D32 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 22:32:01 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org F1CBB3858D32 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=klomp.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klomp.org Received: from reform (deer0x15.wildebeest.org [172.31.17.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gnu.wildebeest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90D5930067AC for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 00:32:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: by reform (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B1BB2E833B6; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 00:32:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 00:32:00 +0200 From: Mark Wielaard To: Overseers mailing list Subject: SFC video-chat discussion meeting notes Message-ID: References: <1d8df057d6a7891e7af38de89a17b99f@sfconservancy.org> <8f4b73fb87d4619126f3594041e8bb22@sfconservancy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8f4b73fb87d4619126f3594041e8bb22@sfconservancy.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Here are the rough notes from the first two meetings. The SFC will host another one at 17:00 UTC Monday also on BigBlueButton. The link will be posted on the overseers mailinglist on Monday. > Meeting 15:00 UTC, September 9 > > SFC staff shared links to the Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement template > > Fiscal sponsorship agreement talks about the structure, what's the best way > to describe it? > Concern: is defining the scope of the project difficult? There are legacy > projects, etc > Projects hosted by Sourceware will not become SFC projects > > * may need to write this into the agreement > > Sourceware is well resourced enough to bring more projects on > > Discussion about longevity and succession of Sourceware > Making sure that governance of the project is independent from any company > > Discussed possible people to join the leadership committee > Possibly anyone who has root should be on the committee? > > SFC recommends reaching out personally to overseers who have been active > over the last 10 years to make sure they've seen the discussion about > joining SFC and if they'd like to be involved. Meeting 18:00 UTC September 10 Reached out to a few people personally who have a longtime involvment in projects and/or sourceware to see if they would be interested in joining the PLC Do member projects talk to each other? Sometimes they do and there are a few mailing lists to do it but in practice there hasn't been that much cross-project chatter. Recently there was a great conversation amongst our projects about GiveUpGitHub.org. SFC will announce soon an in person event that may be a good venue for more of this Could SFC help hire logo or web designers? Definitely, we've hired multiple people in these roles in the last few years and will continue to do so. We like to favor small companies or individuals who use software freedom tools, but have also hired larger companies. Conflict of interest policy: it is long, how will that work out with so many projects being hosted? https://sfconservancy.org/projects/policies/conflict-of-interest-policy.html The policy is really only an issue when the person is going to benefit financially from the project (or related situation) In practice this works out easily, conflicted parties simply recuse themselves from the relevant discussion How do in kind donations work? Depending on the donation, we may need to track it on our books Charitable deductions are possible where helpful for companies Normally can evaluate logo placement or other sponsorship program Organizations could be encouraged to continue donating in-kind resources by formal recognition Discussion about other fiscal sponsor options, what SFC offers and what it doesn't, and different historical trajectories of projects that look for large amounts of funding vs. those who focus on long term survivability