From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from pine.sfconservancy.org (pine.sfconservancy.org [IPv6:2001:4801:7822:103:be76:4eff:fe10:7c55]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B53C3851152 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:34:59 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 8B53C3851152 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=sfconservancy.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sfconservancy.org Received: from wn (unknown [IPv6:2601:240:cf80:8f10::450a]) (Authenticated sender: pono) by pine.sfconservancy.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 072B6E382; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:34:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=sfconservancy.org; s=pine; t=1663000499; bh=+fREMlaQi0Q46M0zLW/Y7nsJnqdx5Tr+DTyASi2VUMQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Hu4gQNLBtoobls9m6IakjcvHzChyrIPlwpe/gLB6DAZNLG4Rz9wwuqxax8mWdNWXI Pw9Qg1LQKgaBCL41cDtvSdHTReCDOv8MfizJxI0xKHpFe/p9RPBeR7RKawR0uLr7Qx 19F8KI1kxKKPyh+u6b28A2cb3MnYS5SmuJNSlfXk8dJD5rmIxb8YTVTQuXSFO2lq3Y FR3Mk1QflRcFwZ8N/lwWcsxwhimGyDRIaoT5TXTrVT705GZbpuvaWQjBk1MjOohWmB wvk1G5YY1W8u2q2TSiuquiudqqRYso6Dvhm/s/rBMp7jB/DxP7zewjnb569CefYTxB XqSivaPMPVCCA== Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 11:34:57 -0500 From: Daniel Pono Takamori To: Overseers mailing list Cc: Mark Wielaard Subject: Re: SFC video-chat discussion meeting notes Message-ID: References: <1d8df057d6a7891e7af38de89a17b99f@sfconservancy.org> <8f4b73fb87d4619126f3594041e8bb22@sfconservancy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: And here's the info for the last meeting, happening in ~25 minutes at 17:00 UTC. https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/pon-bl3-2pp-lk9 To join this meeting by phone, dial: +1-718-247-9666 Then enter 33966 as the conference PIN number. Thanks Mark for the notes from the last meeting below. See you soon! -Pono On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:32:00AM +0200, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote: > Here are the rough notes from the first two meetings. > > The SFC will host another one at 17:00 UTC Monday also on BigBlueButton. > The link will be posted on the overseers mailinglist on Monday. > > > Meeting 15:00 UTC, September 9 > > > > SFC staff shared links to the Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement template > > > > Fiscal sponsorship agreement talks about the structure, what's the best way > > to describe it? > > Concern: is defining the scope of the project difficult? There are legacy > > projects, etc > > Projects hosted by Sourceware will not become SFC projects > > > > * may need to write this into the agreement > > > > Sourceware is well resourced enough to bring more projects on > > > > Discussion about longevity and succession of Sourceware > > Making sure that governance of the project is independent from any company > > > > Discussed possible people to join the leadership committee > > Possibly anyone who has root should be on the committee? > > > > SFC recommends reaching out personally to overseers who have been active > > over the last 10 years to make sure they've seen the discussion about > > joining SFC and if they'd like to be involved. > > Meeting 18:00 UTC September 10 > > Reached out to a few people personally who have a longtime involvment > in projects and/or sourceware to see if they would be interested in > joining the PLC > > Do member projects talk to each other? > > Sometimes they do and there are a few mailing lists to do it but in > practice there hasn't been that much cross-project chatter. Recently > there was a great conversation amongst our projects about > GiveUpGitHub.org. > > SFC will announce soon an in person event that may be a good venue > for more of this > > Could SFC help hire logo or web designers? > > Definitely, we've hired multiple people in these roles in the last > few years and will continue to do so. > > We like to favor small companies or individuals who use software > freedom tools, but have also hired larger companies. > > Conflict of interest policy: it is long, how will that work out with > so many projects being hosted? > https://sfconservancy.org/projects/policies/conflict-of-interest-policy.html > > The policy is really only an issue when the person is going to > benefit financially from the project (or related situation) > > In practice this works out easily, conflicted parties simply > recuse themselves from the relevant discussion > > How do in kind donations work? > > Depending on the donation, we may need to track it on our books > > Charitable deductions are possible where helpful for companies > > Normally can evaluate logo placement or other sponsorship program > > Organizations could be encouraged to continue donating in-kind > resources by formal recognition > > Discussion about other fiscal sponsor options, what SFC offers and > what it doesn't, and different > > historical trajectories of projects that look for large amounts of > funding vs. those who focus on long term survivability