From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gnu.wildebeest.org (gnu.wildebeest.org [45.83.234.184]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B8173858D32 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 22:19:21 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 5B8173858D32 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=klomp.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klomp.org Received: from reform (deer0x0b.wildebeest.org [172.31.17.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gnu.wildebeest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 269523021EAC; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 00:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by reform (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E354D2E83185; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 00:19:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 00:19:19 +0200 From: Mark Wielaard To: Overseers mailing list Cc: Carlos O'Donell Subject: Re: The GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Project Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3032.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_SHORT,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi Carlos, On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 03:59:32PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell via Overseers wrote: > During the Sourceware / Infrastructure BoF sessions at GNU Cauldron, the GNU > Toolchain community in collaboration with the Linux Foundation and OpenSSF, > announced the GNU Toolchain Infrastructure project (GTI). It would be really nice if there were representatives of the Linux Foundation and OpenSSF on this list to discuss the details. I saw Mike Dolan, SVP and GM of Projects of the Linux Foundation comment on lwn: https://lwn.net/Articles/909726/ So I did respond there on how I hoped we could move forward with this: https://lwn.net/Articles/909752/ And I saw that Zoë Kooyman, Executive Director of the Free Software Foundation also replied to him: https://lwn.net/Articles/909765/ But it might be more efficient if we all just discussed directly with each other on the overseers list. I liked what Zoë said about transparency as to all the proposed arrangements. It would be good if the actual proposed legal agreements between LF, OpenSSF, sponsors and GTI [TAC] members were published. Specifically so we can determine how various guarantees have been made. For example the guarantee to only use the money to support Free Software. To see what sponsors have been promised for their donations. How this new governance structure exactly works. And how GNU Toolchain leadership has been defined for purposes of determining when/how assets can be transferred into some other financial arrangement if we don't really like this arrangement after all. Thanks, Mark