From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from esa2.hgst.iphmx.com (esa2.hgst.iphmx.com [68.232.143.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D318385DC1A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 16:58:46 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 9D318385DC1A IronPort-SDR: 80YXVJ+KjwiBtLRAPb5lTvLNjXzMV5CjpQdftFh/6+NiX/GxQ8XMuFinP1dBKJvnooCLYbV5ER ghz06shUzeEKDxbETbeBzisT/zXaRbnDj8YdY6Gafc6hOPg7vpsClmc4EKK1sesL9TjAxcVnkk oNhBIS26m+4n04YWzkmDAr7X9pFxsW7h5YE5asevDfyOxaaPLH6gsSHh90XGqTYPGpQDBoRkKC s3PEj8DBS4L7HrgA7YoXfjB+Ym8VImy/BeCOTvU2OXdRV4HKVTh6Qkod8K8NezyRSg52mAJ+DB CME= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.72,355,1580745600"; d="scan'208";a="237121453" Received: from h199-255-45-15.hgst.com (HELO uls-op-cesaep02.wdc.com) ([199.255.45.15]) by ob1.hgst.iphmx.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2020 00:59:40 +0800 IronPort-SDR: SeKXTMduBv0A32E7MFOc7PB9JS5BAXVl76lqwbbPNGQxZAyyfIq0Z2/rIzx7mOJ7LVs7mh7IAw zJf+TV5tlceOOjnaMXcspLM64YErqY/KNml11u06/GSqwfzYVDYNBY546U6WvsPpY9bW1p6bP6 96sDnDAZapLVMk3FLuCbPycvKthVEkqluG3xd5zNtTkXzIMNOfVR9S5LeVebpySuu2iBUeB7+X bxMCjx6Vbu/mgcQGrpg71xUT6WhZmLZbUrkNoXJeV+SB6eEvyMIUjnJmIejrprCmnbcCmhLBGY HjJmXvomzSCokQasUIyM8Dhv Received: from uls-op-cesaip02.wdc.com ([10.248.3.37]) by uls-op-cesaep02.wdc.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Apr 2020 09:49:27 -0700 IronPort-SDR: ukPsqmTjiXEhNeS3MYhMFywmHEMIiAd5qVeVt7Pijfg/z6xctIMgIl9v/nPqWGraebIf7GP5t0 ue6Mp/FYD+r4juAJ8z4inRbgmG09ziHZK6sZkShmqQfXnO5VDedFjjKNIRF7KPwyShFteU1GOd 1wcppdqQJAqgoR2b3YfxbpQGs1Q4yrTYNXGF5AiggiN1Fmt3rKLKXUjUK+u7pSRTPcazsIZ0dN PMT2ny/EolCRAHntGzBVg0k/AuuP52IL6+yHR9fWd8MhwEwJ4f2NB5nL9AWDiDtr4MwnXIjocW Yjw= WDCIronportException: Internal Received: from unknown (HELO redsun52) ([10.149.66.28]) by uls-op-cesaip02.wdc.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Apr 2020 09:58:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:58:39 +0100 (BST) From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" cc: Michael Matz , Jonathan Wakely , "Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc" , Overseers mailing list , Segher Boessenkool , Alexander Monakov , Florian Weimer Subject: Re: Not usable email content encoding In-Reply-To: <20200407160843.GA6154@cgf.cx> Message-ID: References: <20200318110109.GA5496@redhat.com> <20200318142239.GF112952@elastic.org> <3af9771e-e577-f2a1-843e-c2b078bfc4ea@t-online.de> <20200318162250.GG112952@elastic.org> <20200406210946.GY323051@elastic.org> <20200407160843.GA6154@cgf.cx> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LFD 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, MISSING_HEADERS, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 16:58:48 -0000 On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >Can we please switch it off? It's not like we really had a problem before > >the switch to mailman. > > You can't really make statements like this which imply that you are > aware of "problems" on sourceware when you're not a sourceware > administrator. > > We actually were munging the From on the old server and we were getting > an increasing number of complaints to postmaster that people weren't > receiving mail. Hmm, methinks these really ought to be bounced to the postmaster of the broken receiving site. It is not that sourceware has been actually doing anything specific to make the recipient's MTA refuse e-mail. Even if some spam prevention has been installed to block some kind of e-mail, whoever requested some kind of e-mail traffic need to have a way to whitelist the traffic requested, and I believe all list server software provides means for the recipient to identify the source, such as a `List-ID' header or suchlike. Maciej