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From: "fweimer at redhat dot com" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
To: overseers@sourceware.org
Subject: [Bug Infrastructure/29713] Please make libc-alpha mailing list compatible with “git am”
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 09:07:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-29713-14326-2vEXzpgKPo@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-29713-14326@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29713

--- Comment #39 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to Mark Wielaard from comment #37)
> (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #36)
> > Asserting the non-existence of these headers is what breaks DKIM signatures
> > with mailing lists. I reported this upstream-upstream here:
> > 
> >   Signed header defaults break mailing lists
> >   <https://github.com/duncanthrax/pdkim/issues/4>
> 
> Thanks. There is also a Exim and Debian bug for this:
> https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2394
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939808
> 
> It looks like a workaround is to not rely on the default exim setting of the
> dkim sign headers, but explicitly set it to:
> 
> DKIM_SIGN_HEADERS =
> From:From:=Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Subject:Date:To:Cc:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:
> References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:
> Content-Description:=Resent-Date:=Resent-From:=Resent-Sender:=Resent-To:
> =Resent-Cc:=Resent-Message-ID:=List-Id:=List-Help:=List-Unsubscribe:=List-
> Subscribe:=List-Post:=List-Owner:=List-Archive"

“=” for the mailing list headers disables nested mailing lists (or forwarding
mail to lists with “S D r” in Gnus, “b” in mutt). It should be much more
compatible with the default.

> > If Exim (or pdkim really) are unwilling to fix this, Mailman (or something
> > in front of Mailman) needs to be taught to strip such anti-mailing-list DKIM
> > signatures.
> 
> The problem with getting this fixed seems to be that some people are
> convinced dmarc and dkim will just break mailinglists always, so they don't
> see a point in fixing the defaults.

Some of them even have the power to change the defaults. It might be tricky to
convince them to make the change that proves them wrong.

> Stripping can only be done if the dmarc policy for the domain doesn't
> require DKIM signatures, otherwise we will either have to bounce them before
> they reach the list or do From munging anyway (as suggested in comment #6).

Right, it's non-trivial logic, and not going to be implemented for Mailman 2.

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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21 11:35 [Bug Infrastructure/29713] New: " fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-10-21 13:05 ` [Bug Infrastructure/29713] " fche at redhat dot com
2022-10-21 13:28 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-10-21 13:30 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-10-21 14:13 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-10-21 14:52 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-10-21 14:56 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-10-21 15:05 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-10-21 15:19 ` cgf at sourceware dot org
2022-10-21 15:26 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-10-21 15:47 ` cgf at sourceware dot org
2022-10-25  7:34 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-10-26 14:55 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-10-30 22:08 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-10-31  4:37 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-10-31  4:39 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-10-31 10:45 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-10-31 21:47 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-10-31 22:03 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-10-31 22:44 ` joseph at codesourcery dot com
2022-11-01 10:04 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-11-04 14:48 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-11-04 19:58 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-11-05  0:17 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-11-05  0:32 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-11-05 16:26 ` iank at fsf dot org
2022-11-05 19:22 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-11-06 16:23 ` fche at redhat dot com
2022-11-07  9:07 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-11-07 11:24 ` mark at klomp dot org
2022-11-07 12:05 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-12-31 15:58 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-01-01 13:59 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-01-02 15:29 ` fche at redhat dot com
2023-01-02 16:15 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-01-02 16:36 ` fche at redhat dot com
2023-01-02 17:06 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-01-05 22:05 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-01-05 22:48 ` iank at fsf dot org
2023-01-09  9:07 ` fweimer at redhat dot com [this message]
2023-08-11 18:41 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-08-25 10:43 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-08-27 21:08 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-08-27 21:28 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-09-01 12:23 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-09-06 18:41 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-10-11 11:40 ` mark at klomp dot org
2023-10-11 11:41 ` fweimer at redhat dot com

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