From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75039 invoked by alias); 25 Jul 2017 20:41:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 72787 invoked by uid 89); 25 Jul 2017 20:41:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=council, mouth, sk:communi, aging X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:41:17 +0000 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7346A285C1 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:41:16 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 7346A285C1 Authentication-Results: ext-mx06.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx06.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kwade@redhat.com Received: from euterpe.fairy-talefarm.com (ovpn-112-39.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.112.39]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4700627DF; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Looking for service/server operators To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Cc: overseers@sourceware.org References: <38cb7ae6-4463-d381-44ef-0a9d4c601b07@redhat.com> <20170316194025.GB26386@redhat.com> From: Karsten Wade Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:41:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170316194025.GB26386@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nq6IADoxwUbUeBi131m2BxoIDuIGiqbc2" X-SW-Source: 2017-q3/txt/msg00019.txt.bz2 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nq6IADoxwUbUeBi131m2BxoIDuIGiqbc2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NT1MSkUiVUOxHQTBrfEFRIRcxPT58oA9K"; protected-headers="v1" From: Karsten Wade To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Cc: overseers@sourceware.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for service/server operators References: <38cb7ae6-4463-d381-44ef-0a9d4c601b07@redhat.com> <20170316194025.GB26386@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20170316194025.GB26386@redhat.com> --NT1MSkUiVUOxHQTBrfEFRIRcxPT58oA9K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 2795 Hi Frank et al: Since we last addressed this, I had put in the request for $14K for a new host and got overall approval. However, CapEx for all of PnT Eng was over budget by quite a bit, and we've since formed a council that is reviewing each approved item for relative prioritization on everything from new initiatives to keeping the lights on. If this host is fine as is, I would recommend that we return the $14K to the pool for this year. If there are warranty extensions needed, I might be able to fund that out of OSAS OpEx budget. Another option is to look at shared hosting. For example, the OSAS ComInfra team provides managed and unmanaged VMs out of the Raeigh data center. https://mojo.redhat.com/groups/community-infrastructure-cage If we had a problem with the current hardware, and probably just as a backup situation, we could likely provision a VM to bring service back up. That might be a good way to keep things going for this year while we look at a plan for the future. Ultimately my goal is to normalize how we sponsor community infra at Red Hat so that things don't fall between the cracks, live under desks, get lost in the hardware lifecycle, etc. Some of this gets easier with shared infra. For requests of this size I'm happy to run them through the OSAS budget, happy to help provide and maintain services, and/or simply appear in a budget request to help justify where and why we need dedicated hosting, etc. We are clearly inspired by what sourecware.org has been doing over the years, and regardless of this current budget discussion I would like to find a way for us all to be in better contact in the future. It might be that we can provide some sysadmin support, VM backups, alternative hosting, etc. Let me know what you all thing. Best regards, - Karsten On 03/16/2017 12:40 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Hi - >=20 >> I'm wondering who is responsible for what happens at sourceware.org? >=20 > Hey there, I guess. >=20 >> I was alerted that projects had migrated from fedorahosted.org, and >> I'm curious what all is hosted here now? >=20 > We recently welcomed elfutils, lvm2 (back), publican, plus all the > older GNU etc. stuff. >=20 >> I've also heard the hardware is seriously aging, and I'd like to >> work with someone to make sure that this service is taken care >> of. [...] >=20 > The hardware is around 5 years old, but is running reasonably well. > (16-core, E5620, 72GB-RAM, 3T disk). It may not be worthwhile to get > an only sligthly-better new box, as migration downtimes are a hassle. > But, not to look a gift horse in the mouth, what did you have in mind? >=20 >=20 > - FChE >=20 --=20 Karsten Wade Community Infrastructure Team : https://osci.io Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS) : @redhatopen @quaid gpg: AD0E0C41 --NT1MSkUiVUOxHQTBrfEFRIRcxPT58oA9K-- --nq6IADoxwUbUeBi131m2BxoIDuIGiqbc2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-length: 198 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAll3rOsACgkQ2ZIOBq0ODEFctgCgv9bw35GhbR0veTp/3fCHXctk N88AnjEFSE9A5h7MiRIIGFKmx501g3Gp =1Yb2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nq6IADoxwUbUeBi131m2BxoIDuIGiqbc2--