* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
@ 2022-12-20 21:16 Brian Inglis
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2022-12-20 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Wielaard, Overseers mailing list; +Cc: Brian Inglis
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On 2022-12-19 16:25, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 03:55:01PM -0700, Brian Inglis via Overseers wrote:
>> And once again I have my fifth moderation message:
>>> Subject: Your message to Postmaster awaits moderator approval
>>> From: postmaster-owner@sourceware.org
>>> To: brian.inglis@shaw.ca
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:38:06 +0000
>>>
>>> Your mail to 'Postmaster' with the subject
>>>
>>> Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1
>>> cpuinfo
>>>
>>> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
>>>
>>> The reason it is being held:
>>>
>>> Message has implicit destination
> That is really odd. I cannot figure out how your message got to
> postmaster. Or what the intended destination was. Would you have the
> original message (including full headers) as you sent it?
Thanks Mark,
Attached is Thunderbird mbox of 11 posts and autoresponses.
Patches sent with git-send-email as usual, but ISP address CC SystematicSW email
alias via webnames email fwd to shaw; cloudfilter seems to be shaw milter, to
which I often get response AUP#SNDR as the sole response for any of many
apparent reasons.
Latest version of Thunderbird also seems to omit body content headers in some cases.
All I'm now seeing for host -a cygwin.com is:
$ host -adv cygwin.com.
Trying "cygwin.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28997
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 2029 IN HINFO "RFC8482" ""
Received 49 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 13 ms
$ host -adv cygwin.com. dns1.p01.nsone.net.
Trying "cygwin.com"
Using domain server:
Name: dns1.p01.nsone.net.
Address: 2620:4d:4000:6259:7:1:0:1#53
Aliases:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31173
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 3600 IN HINFO "RFC8482" ""
Received 49 bytes from 2620:4d:4000:6259:7:1:0:1#53 in 27 ms
$ host -dvt SOA cygwin.com
Trying "cygwin.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41942
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 3545 IN SOA dns1.p01.nsone.net.
hostmaster.nsone.net. 1669177740 200 7200 1209600 3600
Received 93 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 14 ms
$ host -dvt SOA cygwin.com. dns1.p01.nsone.net.
Trying "cygwin.com"
Using domain server:
Name: dns1.p01.nsone.net.
Address: 2620:4d:4000:6259:7:1:0:1#53
Aliases:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17715
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 3600 IN SOA dns1.p01.nsone.net.
hostmaster.nsone.net. 1669177740 200 7200 1209600 3600
Received 93 bytes from 2620:4d:4000:6259:7:1:0:1#53 in 32 ms
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1
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On 2022-12-17 14:44, cygwin-patches-owner@cygwin.com wrote:
> Your message has been rejected, probably because you are not
> subscribed to the mailing list and the list's policy is to prohibit
> non-members from posting to it. If you think that your messages are
> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> cygwin-patches-owner@cygwin.com.
Please approve my ISP email address subscription as my ISP is now blocking aliases.
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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On 2022-12-17 14:50, postmaster-owner@sourceware.org wrote:
> Your mail to 'Postmaster' with the subject
>
> Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1
> cpuinfo
>
> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
>
> The reason it is being held:
>
> Message has implicit destination
>
> Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
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> this posting, please visit the following URL:
>
> https://sourceware.org/mailman/confirm/postmaster/29912cea16ed6ddad071ec87cdac8df3091d47a5
>
Hi folks,
My ISP is now blocking my ssh id email alias Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.ab.ca so
could you please allow Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca and BWInglis@Shaw.ca to alias my ssh
id Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.ab.ca?
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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Hi folks,
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Please approve my ISP email address subscription as my ISP is now blocking aliases.
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Intel 0x00000007:1 EAX:26 lam Linear Address Masking (& recent entries)
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winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
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diff --git a/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc b/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc
index 6643d1f1aa0f..75a6a85517cd 100644
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@@ -1484,6 +1484,10 @@ format_proc_cpuinfo (void *, char *&destbuf)
ftcprint (features1, 4, "avx_vnni"); /* vex enc NN vec */
ftcprint (features1, 5, "avx512_bf16"); /* vec bfloat16 short */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 7, "cmpccxadd"); */ /* CMPccXADD instructions */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 21, "amx_fp16"); */ /* AMX fp16 Support */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 23, "avx_ifma"); */ /* Support for VPMADD52[H,L]UQ */
+ ftcprint (features1, 26, "lam"); /* Linear Address Masking */
}
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@@ -1484,6 +1484,10 @@ format_proc_cpuinfo (void *, char *&destbuf)
ftcprint (features1, 4, "avx_vnni"); /* vex enc NN vec */
ftcprint (features1, 5, "avx512_bf16"); /* vec bfloat16 short */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 7, "cmpccxadd"); */ /* CMPccXADD instructions */
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}
/* AMD cpuid 0x80000008 ebx */
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index 6643d1f1aa0f..75a6a85517cd 100644
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ftcprint (features1, 4, "avx_vnni"); /* vex enc NN vec */
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Intel 0x00000007:1 EAX:26 lam Linear Address Masking (& recent entries)
---
winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
--------------2.38.1
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-fhandler-proc.cc-format_proc_cpuinfo-add-Linux-6.1-cpuinfo.patch"
diff --git a/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc b/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc
index 6643d1f1aa0f..75a6a85517cd 100644
--- a/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc
+++ b/winsup/cygwin/fhandler/proc.cc
@@ -1484,6 +1484,10 @@ format_proc_cpuinfo (void *, char *&destbuf)
ftcprint (features1, 4, "avx_vnni"); /* vex enc NN vec */
ftcprint (features1, 5, "avx512_bf16"); /* vec bfloat16 short */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 7, "cmpccxadd"); */ /* CMPccXADD instructions */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 21, "amx_fp16"); */ /* AMX fp16 Support */
+/* ftcprint (features1, 23, "avx_ifma"); */ /* Support for VPMADD52[H,L]UQ */
+ ftcprint (features1, 26, "lam"); /* Linear Address Masking */
}
/* AMD cpuid 0x80000008 ebx */
--------------2.38.1--
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* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
@ 2022-12-21 16:24 Brian Inglis
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2022-12-21 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers; +Cc: Brian Inglis, Mark Wielaard
On 2022-12-21 01:56, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Dec 21 00:56, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote:
>> Hi Corinna,
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:49:37AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote:
>>> [Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
>>> [...]
>>> $ host -a cygwin.com
>>> Trying "cygwin.com"
>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11763
>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 6
>>>
>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>> ;cygwin.com. IN ANY
>>>
>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns4.p01.nsone.net.
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns2.p01.nsone.net.
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns3.p01.nsone.net.
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns1.p01.nsone.net.
>>> cygwin.com. 1026 IN A 8.43.85.97
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all"
>>> cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "00918568 domainadmin@redhat.com"
>>>
>>> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
>>> sourceware.org. 7054 IN A 8.43.85.97
>>> dns3.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.65
>>> dns4.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.65
>>> dns1.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.1
>>> dns2.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.1
>>> sourceware.org. 7054 IN AAAA 2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c
>>>
>>> Received 344 bytes from 192.168.129.6#53 in 1 ms
>>>
>>> Is that all correct now, after the changes by Red Hat IT?
>>
>> Yes, that looks correct.
>> You might also want to check the default dkim key can be found:
>>
>> $ host -t txt default._domainkey.cygwin.com
>> default._domainkey.cygwin.com descriptive text "k=rsa;p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLwqjBbSGRiaqBX0INRfT5J8UMusxb6w5PYxMQXlZmRP+stvUoXCEreR2Uw7ARHSTuKUkrpXcQ+cvmsWuktF1xLJh7rO4H6aeK8VngapZTL1YhRztHS7cTkiwgVZeXcYNJM+0eFsJ4PkjsggagyuH4JQEkR7evRMIVnEpx4h1qkwIDAQAB"
>
> Yes, that works fine for me, but I don't have any such problems as
> Brian has.
Thanks very much for your responses and help folks,
Those appear to be visible from here now:
$ host -dva cygwin.com.
Trying "cygwin.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 14377
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 1710 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all"
cygwin.com. 3471 IN SOA dns1.p01.nsone.net.
hostmaster.nsone.net. 1669177740 200 7200 1209600 3600
cygwin.com. 1710 IN TXT "00918568 domainadmin@redhat.com"
Received 166 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 15 ms
$ host -dva default._domainkey.cygwin.com.
Trying "default._domainkey.cygwin.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7722
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;default._domainkey.cygwin.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
default._domainkey.cygwin.com. 1569 IN TXT
"k=rsa;p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLwqjBbSGRiaqBX0INRfT5J8UMusxb6w5PYxMQXlZmRP+stvUoXCEreR2Uw7ARHSTuKUkrpXcQ+cvmsWuktF1xLJh7rO4H6aeK8VngapZTL1YhRztHS7cTkiwgVZeXcYNJM+0eFsJ4PkjsggagyuH4JQEkR7evRMIVnEpx4h1qkwIDAQAB"
Received 284 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 16 ms
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
2022-12-20 23:56 ` Mark Wielaard
@ 2022-12-21 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2022-12-21 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Wielaard; +Cc: Brian Inglis, Brian Inglis, overseers
On Dec 21 00:56, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote:
> Hi Corinna,
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:49:37AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote:
> > [Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
> > [...]
> > $ host -a cygwin.com
> > Trying "cygwin.com"
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11763
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 6
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;cygwin.com. IN ANY
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns4.p01.nsone.net.
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns2.p01.nsone.net.
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns3.p01.nsone.net.
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns1.p01.nsone.net.
> > cygwin.com. 1026 IN A 8.43.85.97
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all"
> > cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "00918568 domainadmin@redhat.com"
> >
> > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > sourceware.org. 7054 IN A 8.43.85.97
> > dns3.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.65
> > dns4.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.65
> > dns1.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.1
> > dns2.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.1
> > sourceware.org. 7054 IN AAAA 2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c
> >
> > Received 344 bytes from 192.168.129.6#53 in 1 ms
> >
> > Is that all correct now, after the changes by Red Hat IT?
>
> Yes, that looks correct.
> You might also want to check the default dkim key can be found:
>
> $ host -t txt default._domainkey.cygwin.com
> default._domainkey.cygwin.com descriptive text "k=rsa;p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLwqjBbSGRiaqBX0INRfT5J8UMusxb6w5PYxMQXlZmRP+stvUoXCEreR2Uw7ARHSTuKUkrpXcQ+cvmsWuktF1xLJh7rO4H6aeK8VngapZTL1YhRztHS7cTkiwgVZeXcYNJM+0eFsJ4PkjsggagyuH4JQEkR7evRMIVnEpx4h1qkwIDAQAB"
Yes, that works fine for me, but I don't have any such problems as
Brian has.
Thanks,
Corinna
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
2022-12-20 23:33 ` Mark Wielaard
@ 2022-12-21 8:54 ` Corinna Vinschen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2022-12-21 8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers
On Dec 21 00:33, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote:
> Hi Corinna,
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:49:37AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote:
> > [Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
>
> I haven't had time to look at all issues, but...
>
> > On Dec 19 15:37, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > > On 2022-12-19 02:13, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > > On Dec 17 14:50, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > >
> > > I also have a number of emails to Cygwin list owners awaiting moderation by
> > > postmaster-owner@sourceware.org.
> >
> > I hope overseers can look into that.
> >
> > I don't understand how your posts could end up at postmaster-owner.
> > They should have ended up at cygwin-patches-owner instead.
>
> This I can explain. One of the cygwin-patches-owners is
> listadmin@sourceware.org which is really an alias for postmaster,
> which is its own mailman list these days. Which is not very convenient
> since mailman gets confused about the alias, because it doesn't see
> itself (postmaster@) as recipient.
>
> We should provide something better for listadmin@, but for now I would
> recommend you remove that address under
> https://cygwin.com/mailman/admin/cygwin-patches/?VARHELP=general/owner
Ok, I'll do that. However, we should have a generic list owner account
which can be used as placeholder and last chance address if the physical
list owners are unavailable for some reason.
Corinna
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
2022-12-20 8:49 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-12-20 23:33 ` Mark Wielaard
@ 2022-12-20 23:56 ` Mark Wielaard
2022-12-21 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mark Wielaard @ 2022-12-20 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian Inglis, Brian Inglis, overseers
Hi Corinna,
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:49:37AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote:
> [Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
> [...]
> > $ host -a cygwin.com
> > Trying "cygwin.com"
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6814
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;cygwin.com. IN ANY
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > cygwin.com. 2630 IN SOA dns1.p01.nsone.net.
> > hostmaster.nsone.net. 1669177740 200 7200 1209600 3600
> > cygwin.com. 2630 IN A 8.43.85.97
> > cygwin.com. 2630 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
> >
> > Received 139 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 12 ms
> > $ host -a nsone.net
> > Trying "nsone.net"
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47686
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;nsone.net. IN ANY
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > nsone.net. 2941 IN NSEC \000.nsone.net. A NS SOA MX
> > TXT AAAA RRSIG NSEC DNSKEY
> >
> > Received 61 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 14 ms
>
> My cygwin.com info looks a bit different, but there are nsone.net
> entries, too:
>
> $ host -a cygwin.com
> Trying "cygwin.com"
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11763
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 6
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;cygwin.com. IN ANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns4.p01.nsone.net.
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns2.p01.nsone.net.
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns3.p01.nsone.net.
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns1.p01.nsone.net.
> cygwin.com. 1026 IN A 8.43.85.97
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all"
> cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "00918568 domainadmin@redhat.com"
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> sourceware.org. 7054 IN A 8.43.85.97
> dns3.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.65
> dns4.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.65
> dns1.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.1
> dns2.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.1
> sourceware.org. 7054 IN AAAA 2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c
>
> Received 344 bytes from 192.168.129.6#53 in 1 ms
>
> Is that all correct now, after the changes by Red Hat IT?
Yes, that looks correct.
You might also want to check the default dkim key can be found:
$ host -t txt default._domainkey.cygwin.com
default._domainkey.cygwin.com descriptive text "k=rsa;p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLwqjBbSGRiaqBX0INRfT5J8UMusxb6w5PYxMQXlZmRP+stvUoXCEreR2Uw7ARHSTuKUkrpXcQ+cvmsWuktF1xLJh7rO4H6aeK8VngapZTL1YhRztHS7cTkiwgVZeXcYNJM+0eFsJ4PkjsggagyuH4JQEkR7evRMIVnEpx4h1qkwIDAQAB"
Cheers,
Mark
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
2022-12-20 8:49 ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2022-12-20 23:33 ` Mark Wielaard
2022-12-21 8:54 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-12-20 23:56 ` Mark Wielaard
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mark Wielaard @ 2022-12-20 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian Inglis, Brian Inglis, overseers
Hi Corinna,
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:49:37AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen via Overseers wrote:
> [Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
I haven't had time to look at all issues, but...
> On Dec 19 15:37, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > On 2022-12-19 02:13, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > On Dec 17 14:50, Brian Inglis wrote:
> >
> > I also have a number of emails to Cygwin list owners awaiting moderation by
> > postmaster-owner@sourceware.org.
>
> I hope overseers can look into that.
>
> I don't understand how your posts could end up at postmaster-owner.
> They should have ended up at cygwin-patches-owner instead.
This I can explain. One of the cygwin-patches-owners is
listadmin@sourceware.org which is really an alias for postmaster,
which is its own mailman list these days. Which is not very convenient
since mailman gets confused about the alias, because it doesn't see
itself (postmaster@) as recipient.
We should provide something better for listadmin@, but for now I would
recommend you remove that address under
https://cygwin.com/mailman/admin/cygwin-patches/?VARHELP=general/owner
Cheers,
Mark
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
[not found] <b2366e8d-f9c3-fc60-bf5d-9131e73360ae@Shaw.ca>
@ 2022-12-20 8:49 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-12-20 23:33 ` Mark Wielaard
2022-12-20 23:56 ` Mark Wielaard
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2022-12-20 8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian Inglis; +Cc: Brian Inglis, overseers
[Cc overseers, please see especially the end of this mail]
On Dec 19 15:37, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2022-12-19 02:13, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On Dec 17 14:50, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > > On 2022-12-17 14:44, cygwin-patches-owner@cygwin.com wrote:
> > > > Your message has been rejected, probably because you are not
> > > > subscribed to the mailing list and the list's policy is to prohibit
> > > > non-members from posting to it. If you think that your messages are
> > > > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> > > > cygwin-patches-owner@cygwin.com.
>
> > > Please approve my ISP email address subscription as my ISP is now blocking aliases.
>
> > You should be able to subscribe yourself with whatever address your ISP
> > requires:
> >
> > https://cygwin.com/mailman/listinfo/cygwin-patches/
> >
> > I took a look into the cygwin-patches member list, and there's no
> > brian.inglis@... in there. There are no other rules except you should be
> > subscribed.
>
> If there is no Brian.Inglis@... there, my original email alias/-es have
> probably been unsubscribed because of ISP bounces or rejects.
There's a difference between being entirely unsubscribed and just
blocked due to bounces. In theory, even with hard bounces, you get
disabled only after 5 days of bouncing, and then you get 3 mails to
inform you about this before your address gets entirely unsubscribed.
Also: Your address brian.inglis AT systematicsw.ab.ca is in the
cygwin-patches "List of non-member addresses whose postings should be
automatically accepted". I added brian.inglis AT shaw.ca to this list.
For good measure I also added both addresses to the "List of addresses
(or regexps) whose subscriptions do not require approval".
> I sent that request because I got neither a confirmation email nor moderator
> approval, although it seems likely that my ISP blocked the confirmation
> email, as with all other Cygwin list posts.
The problem is usually not that you can't send mail, but that sware gets
bounces when trying to send mails to your account.
> As such it looks like I can no longer post to Cygwin lists using my
> maintainer email alias, nor get others, as in my ~/!email, confirmed, nor
> keep them subscribed, because of ISP bounces!
>
> I also have a number of emails to Cygwin list owners awaiting moderation by
> postmaster-owner@sourceware.org.
I hope overseers can look into that.
I don't understand how your posts could end up at postmaster-owner.
They should have ended up at cygwin-patches-owner instead.
> I can upload packages but my posts to cygwin-announce/-* appear in
> public-inbox but not in the sourceware/cygwin archives as I am unsubscribed
> due to bounces!
I'll add your email addresses to the same cygwin-announce "lists of
addresses ..." as for cygwin-patches above.
@overseers, can you take a look into the below?
> Emails from newlib/...@sourceware.org and other domains do not seem to be
> getting blocked, while all from Cygwin.com are!
>
> It may be that everything related to cygwin.* resolves to sourceware.org
> except the DNS is nsone.net and the ISP's outsourced milter cloudfilter.net
> does not like something about that.
>
> The only other non-native domain hosted at sourceware.org is gcc.gnu.org and
> it resolves back to gnu.org:
>
> $ host -a gcc.gnu.org
> Trying "gcc.gnu.org"
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38584
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;gcc.gnu.org. IN ANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN TXT "v=spf1 a ?all"
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN MX 10 eggs.gnu.org.
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN MX 5 gcc.gnu.org.
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN A 8.43.85.97
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN SSHFP 1 1
> FBB1777C379FBD59D86E13984C91948A4F297CDE
> gcc.gnu.org. 182 IN AAAA 2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c
>
> Received 170 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 32 ms
> $ host -a cygwin.com
> Trying "cygwin.com"
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6814
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;cygwin.com. IN ANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> cygwin.com. 2630 IN SOA dns1.p01.nsone.net.
> hostmaster.nsone.net. 1669177740 200 7200 1209600 3600
> cygwin.com. 2630 IN A 8.43.85.97
> cygwin.com. 2630 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
>
> Received 139 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 12 ms
> $ host -a nsone.net
> Trying "nsone.net"
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47686
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;nsone.net. IN ANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> nsone.net. 2941 IN NSEC \000.nsone.net. A NS SOA MX
> TXT AAAA RRSIG NSEC DNSKEY
>
> Received 61 bytes from 64.59.135.148#53 in 14 ms
My cygwin.com info looks a bit different, but there are nsone.net
entries, too:
$ host -a cygwin.com
Trying "cygwin.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11763
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 6
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cygwin.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cygwin.com. 63712 IN MX 10 sourceware.org.
cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns4.p01.nsone.net.
cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns2.p01.nsone.net.
cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns3.p01.nsone.net.
cygwin.com. 63712 IN NS dns1.p01.nsone.net.
cygwin.com. 1026 IN A 8.43.85.97
cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all"
cygwin.com. 63712 IN TXT "00918568 domainadmin@redhat.com"
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
sourceware.org. 7054 IN A 8.43.85.97
dns3.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.65
dns4.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.65
dns1.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.44.1
dns2.p01.nsone.net. 7414 IN A 198.51.45.1
sourceware.org. 7054 IN AAAA 2620:52:3:1:0:246e:9693:128c
Received 344 bytes from 192.168.129.6#53 in 1 ms
Is that all correct now, after the changes by Red Hat IT?
Thanks,
Corinna
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* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
2022-12-19 22:55 Brian Inglis
@ 2022-12-19 23:25 ` Mark Wielaard
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mark Wielaard @ 2022-12-19 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian.Inglis, Overseers mailing list; +Cc: Corinna Vinschen, Brian Inglis
Hi Brian,
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 03:55:01PM -0700, Brian Inglis via Overseers wrote:
> Hi Corinna,
>
> And once again I have my fifth moderation message:
>
> > Subject: Your message to Postmaster awaits moderator approval
> > From: postmaster-owner@sourceware.org
> > To: brian.inglis@shaw.ca
> > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:38:06 +0000
> >
> > Your mail to 'Postmaster' with the subject
> >
> > Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1
> > cpuinfo
> >
> > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
> >
> > The reason it is being held:
> >
> > Message has implicit destination
That is really odd. I cannot figure out how your message got to
postmaster. Or what the intended destination was. Would you have the
original message (including full headers) as you sent it?
Thanks,
Mark
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* Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1 cpuinfo
@ 2022-12-19 22:55 Brian Inglis
2022-12-19 23:25 ` Mark Wielaard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2022-12-19 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Corinna Vinschen; +Cc: Brian Inglis, Overseers mailing list
Hi Corinna,
And once again I have my fifth moderation message:
> Subject: Your message to Postmaster awaits moderator approval
> From: postmaster-owner@sourceware.org
> To: brian.inglis@shaw.ca
> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:38:06 +0000
>
> Your mail to 'Postmaster' with the subject
>
> Re: [PATCH] fhandler/proc.cc(format_proc_cpuinfo): add Linux 6.1
> cpuinfo
>
> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
>
> The reason it is being held:
>
> Message has implicit destination
>
> Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
> notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel
> this posting, please visit the following URL:
>
> https://sourceware.org/mailman/confirm/postmaster/5a91833af3e822f347d970b8a5e5dc5deeca40b4
Could you possibly reach out to a moderator to see if they could allow my
~/!email addresses to post without sending list emails to them?
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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