From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11344 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 2007 22:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11329 invoked by uid 22791); 26 Jul 2007 22:54:09 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (216.239.33.17) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:54:05 +0000 Received: from zps36.corp.google.com (zps36.corp.google.com [172.25.146.36]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id l6QMruga002613; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:53:56 +0100 Received: from smtp.corp.google.com (spacemonkey2.corp.google.com [192.168.120.114]) by zps36.corp.google.com with ESMTP id l6QMriOe026634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:53:45 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain.google.com (adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [71.133.8.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.corp.google.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l6QMri9F005938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:53:44 -0700 To: Joe Buck Cc: Andrew Pinski , Diego Novillo , overseers@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Creating gcc-newbies mailing list References: <46A9099D.6020709@google.com> <20070726220235.GU15982@synopsys.com> From: Ian Lance Taylor Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:54:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20070726220235.GU15982@synopsys.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2007-q3/txt/msg00040.txt.bz2 Joe Buck writes: > I think that when we do steer someone to a different list, we could > take more care to be polite about it than we sometimes are. I agree. I also think we should all try harder to avoid flippant or non-responsive replies to new developers. I think it's important for the long-term growth of gcc for us to encourage new developers. The gcc-newbies proposal was Diego's idea, but it was, of course, based on the kernelnewbies list (see http://kernelnewbies.org/). Is anybody here able to comment on whether kernelnewbies seems to be useful or not? Certainly the kernel community is much larger than the gcc community. Ian