From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19261 invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2004 02:17:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact overseers-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: overseers-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 19253 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2004 02:17:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.128.65.135) by sources.redhat.com with QMTP; 19 Mar 2004 02:17:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18285 invoked by uid 10); 19 Mar 2004 02:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 15206 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2004 02:17:20 -0000 From: Ian Lance Taylor To: overseers@sourceware.org Subject: Re: /sourceware/www is full References: <20040318170101.A91608@molenda.com> <20040319010632.GA20833@redhat.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:49:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2004-q1/txt/msg00217.txt.bz2 "Joseph S. Myers" writes: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2004, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > > > I think we may want to consider the somewhat radical step of moving > > some of the old mailing list archival stuff off to a different server. > > I assume that people don't look up old mailing list data very often. > > It might be too much of a pain to get searching to work right, though. > > I just found it a pain some hours ago that list archives from 1998 had > dead URLs to the egcs list archives originally on www.cygnus.com and it > was necessary to look at messages with similar numbers in the current > version of the archives to work out what message a dead link was referring > to. (archive.org didn't have the old version of the archives to provide a > shortcut.) It's routinely useful to recall some message or discussion > from one of the egcs/GCC lists at any time since 1997 and then search and > bring up that particular message, and anything breaking URLs or hindering > searching is a pain in that regard. Searching is a problem which would have to be addressed, but URL redirection is trivial. We can't do useful URL redirection for cygnus.com references, because, sadly and foolishly, Red Hat let the domain name go. But we can easily redirect URLs among domain names which we control. > (The logs should give real statistics about the number of accesses to each > month's archives.) As a quick check, the current gcc-combined_log shows 1,298,388 references to mailing lists, of which 204,710 are to messages in years beginning with 19. That is 15%. Actually more than I would have guessed. If we don't count 1999, we are left with 68,464 references, or 5%. Of course, gcc messages before 1999 take up a total 353M, or all of 1.5% of the space on the partition. Hmmm. Maybe not such a worthwhile idea. Ian