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* Ant
@ 2001-10-22 10:39 Jason Petrone
  2001-10-22 11:13 ` Ant Anthony Green
  2001-10-23 10:53 ` Ant Alexandre Petit-Bianco
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jason Petrone @ 2001-10-22 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rhug-rhats

Any plans to add ant( http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/ ) to RHUG?

Before I jump in and start it myself I wanted to see if there was a reason it
wasn't already there.

Jason

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* Re: Ant
  2001-10-22 10:39 Ant Jason Petrone
@ 2001-10-22 11:13 ` Anthony Green
  2001-10-22 13:09   ` Ant Jason Petrone
  2001-10-23 10:53 ` Ant Alexandre Petit-Bianco
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Green @ 2001-10-22 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jason Petrone, rhug-rhats

Jason wrote:
> Any plans to add ant( http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/ ) to RHUG?

Not right now.

> Before I jump in and start it myself I wanted to see if there was a reason
it
> wasn't already there.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what the value would be.  Admittedly, I'm pretty
ignorant about Ant - so please let me know where I'm going wrong.

IIRC, Ant invokes Sun's javac compiler via it's java interface
(com.sun.tools...?? - or something like that).  This has the advantage that
once you've started Ant, calling the compiler is relatively quick because the
VM is already running.  We won't be able to use this same interface for javac,
which means every invocation of Sun's compiler will mean starting the VM -- a
relatively slow process.  So compiling Ant to native code doesn't seem all
that compelling on the surface.  Are there other ways Ant is used in which it
is a win?  Maybe for people using jikes?

Don't let this stop you though!

Thanks,

AG


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* Re: Ant
  2001-10-22 11:13 ` Ant Anthony Green
@ 2001-10-22 13:09   ` Jason Petrone
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jason Petrone @ 2001-10-22 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Green; +Cc: rhug-rhats

On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:19:23AM -0700, Anthony Green wrote:
> Jason wrote:
> > Any plans to add ant( http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/ ) to RHUG?
> Well, I'm not sure exactly what the value would be.  

I use ant as a build tool for java programs.  I get really frustrated by its
startup time and wish it was a native program.  Right now I'm running it
from a special shell that only loads it once, but this is really a hack.

Only loading the compiler code once is only one small reason for using ant,
the main reason I use it is for its java dependency generation.  And it can
use jikes instead of the normal compiler, which means it wouldn't be any
slower under native code.

> Don't let this stop you though!

Ok, this is what I wanted to hear...  

Thanks.

jason

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* Re: Ant
  2001-10-22 10:39 Ant Jason Petrone
  2001-10-22 11:13 ` Ant Anthony Green
@ 2001-10-23 10:53 ` Alexandre Petit-Bianco
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alexandre Petit-Bianco @ 2001-10-23 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jason Petrone; +Cc: rhug-rhats

Jason Petrone writes:

> Any plans to add ant( http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/ ) to RHUG?

I think it is a desirable piece of infrastructure. It would be nice to
have it.

./A

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