[presales+tim.w@redhat.com: Re: Source Navigator]

[presales+tim.w@redhat.com: Re: Source Navigator]

[Larry Stabile]

Is there anything you can tell me about the questions below? Thanks.

Larry Stabile
Concord Communications, Inc.
600 Nickerson Road
Marlborough, MA 01752
lstabile@concord.com
508-303-4246

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> I tried Source Navigator 4.5.2 and it looks pretty good.
> 
> We have a source base of 1M+ lines of C++ code, so it takes awhile to
> create a project database. I would like to be able to operate in the
> following way:
> 
>     1. Make an initial source pass.
> 
>     2. Schedule a nightly job to update the project database.
> 
>     3. Allow developers to see this "master" project database
>        read-only from their desktop systems by accessing the shared
>        project database and source code.
> 
> We use Clearcase as our source control system.
> 
> The main question I have right now is whether the project database can
> be updated incrementally -- i.e., by checking file modification times
> or other methods. It would be expensive for us to scan the whole
> source tree each night.
> 
> Also, please comment on whether you think the above sharing
> methodology is feasible. Note that I don't need a system right now
> which can share a main database and incrementally update local
> changes on developer's destktop machines. The main use of this will be
> to give people a way to browse the general source structure, not as an
> up-to-the-minute development tool.


Larry,

I have forwarded your concerns to the Source Navigator people. They can
be contacted at...

sourcenav@sources.redhat.com

...if you have any other questions about Source Navigator.

Thank you,

- -- 
Tim W.			| "I don't care to belong to a club that 
Red Hat Presales	| accepts people like me as members."
			| --Grocho Marx
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Re: [presales+tim.w@redhat.com: Re: Source Navigator]

[Syd Polk]

This is an often-requested feature from sites with large amounts of source 
code. Right now, we don't support it very well.

It is on the (long) list of things to address.

At 08:30 AM 11/29/00 -0500, Larry Stabile wrote:
>Is there anything you can tell me about the questions below? Thanks.
>
>Larry Stabile
>Concord Communications, Inc.
>600 Nickerson Road
>Marlborough, MA 01752
>lstabile@concord.com
>508-303-4246
>
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>
> > I tried Source Navigator 4.5.2 and it looks pretty good.
> >
> > We have a source base of 1M+ lines of C++ code, so it takes awhile to
> > create a project database. I would like to be able to operate in the
> > following way:
> >
> >     1. Make an initial source pass.
> >
> >     2. Schedule a nightly job to update the project database.
> >
> >     3. Allow developers to see this "master" project database
> >        read-only from their desktop systems by accessing the shared
> >        project database and source code.
> >
> > We use Clearcase as our source control system.

Well, although there is something labelled "ClearCase" in Source-Navigator, 
it never worked for us, and we believe that it never worked for the 
original developers.

> >
> > The main question I have right now is whether the project database can
> > be updated incrementally -- i.e., by checking file modification times
> > or other methods. It would be expensive for us to scan the whole
> > source tree each night.

We already scan it incrementally. There are performance problems with 
deleting records from the underlying database that makes it horribly slow.

> >
> > Also, please comment on whether you think the above sharing
> > methodology is feasible. Note that I don't need a system right now
> > which can share a main database and incrementally update local
> > changes on developer's destktop machines. The main use of this will be
> > to give people a way to browse the general source structure, not as an
> > up-to-the-minute development tool.
>
>
>Larry,
>
>I have forwarded your concerns to the Source Navigator people. They can
>be contacted at...
>
>sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
>
>...if you have any other questions about Source Navigator.
>
>Thank you,
>
>- --
>Tim W.                  | "I don't care to belong to a club that
>Red Hat Presales        | accepts people like me as members."
>                         | --Grocho Marx
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Syd Polk		spolk@redhat.com
Engineering Manager	+1 415 777 9810 x 241
Red Hat, Inc.

Re: [presales+tim.w@redhat.com: Re: Source Navigator]

[Larry Stabile]

Thanks for the info. It works ok in clearcase simply by running the
navigator in a view. I don't think we need any other special features
in that regard.

I did try a rescan and even with the delete it was much quicker than a
full project build. I will ask our admins to set this up on a build
machine. If you like, I will report to you how it turned out.

- Larry

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Larry Stabile
Concord Communications, Inc.
600 Nickerson Road
Marlborough, MA 01752
lstabile@concord.com
508-303-4246