silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-compliant?

silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-compliant?

[William Gacquer]

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	William

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Re: silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-complian t?

[Bruce Stephens]

What does "Gnome-compliant" mean to you?  It's written using Tcl/Tk,
so the GUI isn't going to change colours or themes with the rest of
GNOME.  It's also not likely to support drag&drop, be customizable
using the GNOME control center, or to support the GNOME print engine.
(The first is just because Tk doesn't do drag&drop yet; when it does,
things ought to work with Source Navigator.)

Rewriting the GUI wouldn't be an impossible task: by the looks of it,
it's 65K lines or so of Tcl (including comments and so on).  It uses a
bunch of Tcl extensions, but I suspect all the widgets provided by
those are available in GNOME's libraries.

The only interfaces to the rest of the stuff seems to be running
pipelines of parsers into dbimp, and accessing the db-1.85/1.86
databases.  The latter are fairly well documented; I'm not sure about
the former.

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Re: silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-complian t?

[Florent Pillet]

I don't think this would be such a good idea. It would mean a major rewrite 
of SN from TCL to C (not C++!) and porting anything to C just sounds like a 
bad idea. Too many potential crashes, too many potential problems. If I were 
to rewrite SN, it would be in C++, not in C...

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, you wrote:

> What does "Gnome-compliant" mean to you?  It's written using Tcl/Tk,
> so the GUI isn't going to change colours or themes with the rest of
> GNOME.  It's also not likely to support drag&drop, be customizable
> using the GNOME control center, or to support the GNOME print engine.
> (The first is just because Tk doesn't do drag&drop yet; when it does,
> things ought to work with Source Navigator.)
>
> Rewriting the GUI wouldn't be an impossible task: by the looks of it,
> it's 65K lines or so of Tcl (including comments and so on).  It uses a
> bunch of Tcl extensions, but I suspect all the widgets provided by
> those are available in GNOME's libraries.
>
> The only interfaces to the rest of the stuff seems to be running
> pipelines of parsers into dbimp, and accessing the db-1.85/1.86
> databases.  The latter are fairly well documented; I'm not sure about
> the former.

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Re: silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-compliant?

[Syd Polk]

As long as it would take to get tcl/tk, tix, incr Tcl and special
widgets Gnome compliant.

Several months of work, I would suspect.

William Gacquer wrote:
> 
> Everything is in the subject.
> 
>         William
> 
> ________________
> William Gacquer
> Rayman 2 PS2 team - Ubi Simulations - Annecy France

Re: silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-complian t?

[Tee Y Teoh]

Ian Roxborough wrote:

> Maintain two UIs, one GTK compliant, one for the rest
> of the work, just won't fly.

What about porting to wxWindows ? wxWindows is support on MS-Windows, Unix/Motif,
Unix/GTK,  and Mac (with work going on for OS/2). wxWindows is  written in C++
and has a Python binding. See http://www.wxwindows.org/ for more info.

Regards

Tee Teoh

Re: silly question : how long would it take to make SN Gnome-compliant?

[Ben Elliston]

   What about porting to wxWindows ? wxWindows is support on MS-Windows,
   Unix/Motif, Unix/GTK, and Mac (with work going on for OS/2). wxWindows
   is written in C++ and has a Python binding. See
   http://www.wxwindows.org/ for more info.

That sounds like what Tk was supposed to be.  Why not port the Tk iwdgets to
GTK?  If S-N could run under `wish', this would be more feasible.

Ben