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* RE: New CVS module to checkout.
@ 2002-02-22  8:16 Doug Fraser
  2002-02-22 10:05 ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-22 11:08 ` Gilles J. Seguin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Doug Fraser @ 2002-02-22  8:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Mo DeJong', sourcenav

Mo,

Dionysus rolls off the tongue nicer than Bacchus.

How about Sisyphus, although that is a little bit of
a downer, really, it sort of describes the effort you
folks have put in to this.

I was thinking Alexandria, since you are building the
ultimate library to store and catalog all your source
symbols.

Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mo DeJong [mailto:supermo@bayarea.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:15 AM
> To: sourcenav
> Subject: Re: New CVS module to checkout.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:04:09 +0200
> Eray Ozkural <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> wrote:
> 
> > > If I get a wave brain or something I'll post my ideas...
> > 
> > I was actually going to suggest "Maybe we should find a 
> mythological name 
> > like Phoenix." We might have a mindlink.
> 
> ...
> 
> > Since we have both thought of "phoenix", I would say just 
> let it be. The 
> > meaning fits remarkably well sourcenav being a project 
> resurrected again and 
> > again.
> 
> Me thinks "phoenix" is too over the top. Our old project 
> codename was "highlander"
> but that is too pop culture. How about "Diuturnity", it means 
> a long duration.
> 
> If ancient gods are your thing, how about Bacchus (aka Dionysus).
> http://www.geocities.com/hestia624/olympians-dionysus.html
> 
> cheers
> Mo
> 

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-22  8:16 New CVS module to checkout Doug Fraser
@ 2002-02-22 10:05 ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-22 11:08 ` Gilles J. Seguin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Eray Ozkural @ 2002-02-22 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Doug Fraser, 'Mo DeJong', sourcenav

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On Friday 22 February 2002 13:47, Doug Fraser wrote:
> Mo,
>
> Dionysus rolls off the tongue nicer than Bacchus.
>
> How about Sisyphus, although that is a little bit of
> a downer, really, it sort of describes the effort you
> folks have put in to this.
>
> I was thinking Alexandria, since you are building the
> ultimate library to store and catalog all your source
> symbols.

How about simply sticking with 'sourcebase'? Mo had said 'sourceDB'. 
sourcebase means a database of sources, a la knowledge base.

Thanks,

- -- 
Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-22  8:16 New CVS module to checkout Doug Fraser
  2002-02-22 10:05 ` Eray Ozkural
@ 2002-02-22 11:08 ` Gilles J. Seguin
  2002-02-22 13:07   ` Ian Roxborough
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Gilles J. Seguin @ 2002-02-22 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

Doug Fraser wrote:
> 
> Mo,
> 
> Dionysus rolls off the tongue nicer than Bacchus.
> 
> How about Sisyphus, although that is a little bit of
> a downer, really, it sort of describes the effort you
> folks have put in to this.
> 
> I was thinking Alexandria, since you are building the
> ultimate library to store and catalog all your
> source symbols.

SOurce SYmbols give SOSY.
Wich is close to a femine name Susie(french), Suzy

> 
> Doug
>

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-22 11:08 ` Gilles J. Seguin
@ 2002-02-22 13:07   ` Ian Roxborough
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Roxborough @ 2002-02-22 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gilles J. Seguin; +Cc: sourcenav

"Gilles J. Seguin" wrote:
> 
> Doug Fraser wrote:
> > I was thinking Alexandria, since you are building the
> > ultimate library to store and catalog all your
> > source symbols.
> 
> SOurce SYmbols give SOSY.
> Wich is close to a femine name Susie(french), Suzy

Hehe, I was going to say the other "normal" open source
naming convention, name it after bodies girlfriend. ;-)

Ian

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-22 10:26 Doug Fraser
@ 2002-02-22 13:55 ` Khamis Abuelkomboz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Khamis Abuelkomboz @ 2002-02-22 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

Hi,

I didn't join you at the beginning of the discussion. SourceBase sounds good
for me. I think, we must have the name of "Source-Navigator" into the 
new name
for the database engine. This because Source-Navigator, as name, is 
famous now
and people who look for SN tools would find SourceBase as a related theme.

Think on Borland and Enprise history!

Khamis


Doug Fraser wrote:

>Oh, I think sourcebase would be fine.
>I really do. I was just thinking of something
>more poetic, more artful. A library is what
>you are building, in both senses. A linkable
>library that acts as a backend to other development
>tools and also a library as in sense 4 of the
>American Heritage Dictionary:
>
>	4. An organized collection of recorded data
>		arranged for ease of use.
>
>but then, sourcebase is more descriptive.
>
>Alexandria would not immediately imply to the casual
>web surfer that they had just encountered the neatest
>source discovery tools anywhere in the solar system.
>Sourcebase may just clue them in that direction....
>
>Doug
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Eray Ozkural [mailto:erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr]
>>
>
><snip>
>
>>How about simply sticking with 'sourcebase'? Mo had said 'sourceDB'. 
>>sourcebase means a database of sources, a la knowledge base.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>- -- 
>>Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
>>
>
>


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* RE: New CVS module to checkout.
@ 2002-02-22 10:26 Doug Fraser
  2002-02-22 13:55 ` Khamis Abuelkomboz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Doug Fraser @ 2002-02-22 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Eray Ozkural', Doug Fraser, 'Mo DeJong', sourcenav

Oh, I think sourcebase would be fine.
I really do. I was just thinking of something
more poetic, more artful. A library is what
you are building, in both senses. A linkable
library that acts as a backend to other development
tools and also a library as in sense 4 of the
American Heritage Dictionary:

	4. An organized collection of recorded data
		arranged for ease of use.

but then, sourcebase is more descriptive.

Alexandria would not immediately imply to the casual
web surfer that they had just encountered the neatest
source discovery tools anywhere in the solar system.
Sourcebase may just clue them in that direction....

Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eray Ozkural [mailto:erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr]

<snip>

> How about simply sticking with 'sourcebase'? Mo had said 'sourceDB'. 
> sourcebase means a database of sources, a la knowledge base.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - -- 
> Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
> 

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-22  0:16     ` Eray Ozkural
@ 2002-02-22  2:43       ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-02-22  2:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:04:09 +0200
Eray Ozkural <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> wrote:

> > If I get a wave brain or something I'll post my ideas...
> 
> I was actually going to suggest "Maybe we should find a mythological name 
> like Phoenix." We might have a mindlink.

...

> Since we have both thought of "phoenix", I would say just let it be. The 
> meaning fits remarkably well sourcenav being a project resurrected again and 
> again.

Me thinks "phoenix" is too over the top. Our old project codename was "highlander"
but that is too pop culture. How about "Diuturnity", it means a long duration.

If ancient gods are your thing, how about Bacchus (aka Dionysus).
http://www.geocities.com/hestia624/olympians-dionysus.html

cheers
Mo

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-21 15:35   ` Ian Roxborough
@ 2002-02-22  0:16     ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-22  2:43       ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Eray Ozkural @ 2002-02-22  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Roxborough; +Cc: sourcenav

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Hi Ian!

On Friday 22 February 2002 02:02, Ian Roxborough wrote:
>
> Unless you want to call it something like phenix...
> (IT, ginger?) ;-)
>
> If I get a wave brain or something I'll post my ideas...

I was actually going to suggest "Maybe we should find a mythological name 
like Phoenix." We might have a mindlink.

The name does not matter for coding but a decent name is sort of necessary in 
open source projects.

Since we have both thought of "phoenix", I would say just let it be. The 
meaning fits remarkably well sourcenav being a project resurrected again and 
again. Of course there is the problem that one can find at least a dozen of 
"phoenix" software projects all over the web :) Anybody familiar with names 
from mythology/literature?

Thanks,

- -- 
Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-21 16:43   ` Mo DeJong
@ 2002-02-21 18:17     ` Eray Ozkural
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Eray Ozkural @ 2002-02-21 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mo DeJong, sourcenav

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Hi Mo!

On Friday 22 February 2002 01:34, Mo DeJong wrote:
>
> On the subject of a project name, how about sourceDB? That might get across
> the concept of turning your source code into a database of symbols that can
> be queried.
>

So you might already like "sourcebase" name which I'd offered earlier? For 
specific databases usually this sort of compound word is used. For instance 
"knowledge base", "media base", etc...

If you agree, let's use "sourcebase".

Thanks,

- -- 
Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-21 14:48 ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-21 15:35   ` Ian Roxborough
@ 2002-02-21 16:43   ` Mo DeJong
  2002-02-21 18:17     ` Eray Ozkural
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-02-21 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:13:53 +0200
Eray Ozkural <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> wrote:

> Is this where we're supposed to work on sn backend? Or should we arrange a 
> separate CVS module for that? Last, we hadn't decided on a name.
> 
> Thanks,

No, that is just the CVSROOT for the source code that implements SN. It depends
on modules that are shared with gdb and other projects, but the code that is only
used by SN is separated out.

On the subject of a project name, how about sourceDB? That might get across the
concept of turning your source code into a database of symbols that can be queried.

cheers
Mo

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-21 14:48 ` Eray Ozkural
@ 2002-02-21 15:35   ` Ian Roxborough
  2002-02-22  0:16     ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-21 16:43   ` Mo DeJong
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Roxborough @ 2002-02-21 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eray Ozkural; +Cc: sourcenav

Eray Ozkural wrote:
> 
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> 
> On Thursday 21 February 2002 02:04, Ian Roxborough wrote:
> > then just the normal:
> > cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav co snavigator
> > (gets Source-Navigator and the db.)
> >
> 
> Is this where we're supposed to work on sn backend? Or should we arrange a
> separate CVS module for that? Last, we hadn't decided on a name.

Let me know when you've come up with a name and I'll create
a new module.  This one is just to make checking out tk/tcl/etc
a bit easier (since I hope more people will build it from CVS
soon).

On the matter of names, I'm stumped on a good name
for it.... libSN is about my limit.

Unless you want to call it something like phenix...
(IT, ginger?) ;-)

If I get a wave brain or something I'll post my ideas...

Ian.

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-20 16:12 Ian Roxborough
  2002-02-20 17:51 ` Mo DeJong
@ 2002-02-21 14:48 ` Eray Ozkural
  2002-02-21 15:35   ` Ian Roxborough
  2002-02-21 16:43   ` Mo DeJong
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Eray Ozkural @ 2002-02-21 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Roxborough, sourcenav

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On Thursday 21 February 2002 02:04, Ian Roxborough wrote:
> then just the normal:
> cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav co snavigator
> (gets Source-Navigator and the db.)
>

Is this where we're supposed to work on sn backend? Or should we arrange a 
separate CVS module for that? Last, we hadn't decided on a name.

Thanks,

- -- 
Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-20 17:51 ` Mo DeJong
@ 2002-02-21  1:51   ` Mo DeJong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-02-21  1:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:11:50 -0800
Mo DeJong <supermo@bayarea.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:04:53 -0800
> Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've added a new module to the sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
> > root to make life easier for people checking SN out of CVS.
> 
> That CVSROOT was not quite right. It should be:

We should really add this info to the download page. Appended
is a patch to do just that. Also, I found out that there is a cvsweb
viewer that can be used to view the SN code. I included a link
to it in the patch. The patch also fixes a couple of other minor
little mistaked on the download page.

cheers
Mo

2002-02-28  Mo DeJong  <supermo@bayarea.net>

	* download.html: Fixup wording so that it does
	not sound like the most recent release was
	the "last" release. Don't mention HPUX
        since we do not provide a binary for it.
	Describe how to download the latest code via
	CVS and include cvsweb links for gdb and
	the snavigator CVSROOTs.

--- /tmp/download.html	Thu Feb 21 01:16:10 2002
+++ download.html	Thu Feb 21 01:06:52 2002
@@ -66,9 +66,9 @@
          <H1>Downloading
          Source-Navigator<FONT SIZE="-2"><SUP>TM</SUP></FONT></H1>
          
-         <P>Version 5.0 is the last stable release. You can download
+         <P>Version 5.0 is the most recent stable release. You can download
          source for stable releases. You can also download pre-built
-         binaries for Solaris, HPUX or Windows.</P>
+         binaries for Solaris or Windows.</P>
          
          <P>Development releases are not guaranteed to be stable;
          they are snapshots of what the Source-Navigator team is
@@ -83,6 +83,33 @@
          <a href="http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/sourcenav">
          http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/sourcenav</a>
          </p>
+
+         <p>
+         <b>CVS Access</b><br>
+         The bleeding edge development version is always available
+         via CVS. The following instructions assume a C shell and
+         a CVS command line client.
+
+         <pre>
+setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/src
+cvs login
+(password is "anoncvs")
+cvs checkout sn-support
+
+setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav
+cvs login
+(password is "anoncvs")
+cvs checkout snavigator
+         </pre>
+
+         A cvsweb interface is also available. With it, you can browse the code
+         that makes up the
+         <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=src">sn-support</a>
+         and
+         <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=sourcenav">snavigator</a>
+         modules.
+         </p>
+
       </TD>
    </TR>
 </TABLE>

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* Re: New CVS module to checkout.
  2002-02-20 16:12 Ian Roxborough
@ 2002-02-20 17:51 ` Mo DeJong
  2002-02-21  1:51   ` Mo DeJong
  2002-02-21 14:48 ` Eray Ozkural
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mo DeJong @ 2002-02-20 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:04:53 -0800
Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've added a new module to the sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
> root to make life easier for people checking SN out of CVS.

That CVSROOT was not quite right. It should be:

setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/src
cvs login
(pass is "anoncvs")
cvs co sn-support

setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav
cvs login
(pass is "anoncvs")
cvs co snavigator

That worked for me.
Mo

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* New CVS module to checkout.
@ 2002-02-20 16:12 Ian Roxborough
  2002-02-20 17:51 ` Mo DeJong
  2002-02-21 14:48 ` Eray Ozkural
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Roxborough @ 2002-02-20 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sourcenav

Hi,

I've added a new module to the sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
root to make life easier for people checking SN out of CVS.

cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/src co sn-support
(Tcl/Tk/Itcl/Tix/etc... get's checked out.)

then just the normal:
cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav co snavigator
(gets Source-Navigator and the db.)

Ian.

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