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From: Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	systemtap <systemtap@sourceware.org>,
	        CE Linux Developers List
	<celinux-dev@tree.celinuxforum.org>,
	        ltt-dev <ltt-dev@shafik.org>,
	Tohru Nojiri <nojiri@sdl.hitachi.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [ltt-dev] Linux Trace terminology - feedback requested
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:12:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1148054315.9344.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060519151236.GA7883@redhat.com>


> Have you heard of any system that does that effectively?  In systemtap
> we've found that it is not unusual for the kernel compiler to mangle
> code and data flows so much that there is little hope for an
> arbitrarily placed *comment* ("compiled out") to be preserved in a
> sensible way.

This is unfortunately very true. Perhaps you can leave a label or a
special directive that effectively reserves that location in the code
and somewhat limits what the optimizer will do there.

> This distinction seems to offer little value.  A really compiled-out
> static probe is just as useful as a dynamic-probe script that is not
> running.
...
> If, on the other hand, "compiled-out" means something milder, like
> leaving a number of NOPs in the object code, then we should consider a
> different term, since even NOPs don't come free.

Then indeed we may need a name for these things; do we have something in
the source code, is there something in the binary (NOPS place holder,
conditional instruction...).

      reply	other threads:[~2006-05-19 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-18 22:23 Tim Bird
2006-05-19  2:56 ` Li Guanglei
2006-05-19 10:40   ` Richard J Moore
2006-05-19  8:56 ` Richard J Moore
2006-05-19 14:02 ` [ltt-dev] " Michel Dagenais
2006-05-19 15:12   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-05-19 16:12     ` Michel Dagenais [this message]

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