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From: Mark Wielaard <mjw@redhat.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Hemant <hkshaw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	       Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	       Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,        srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,        mingo@redhat.com,
	anton@redhat.com, systemtap@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Perf support to SDT markers
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1378283148.4321.16.camel@bordewijk.wildebeest.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9jtt72j.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com>

On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 15:49 +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:53:17 +0530, Hemant wrote:
> > On 09/03/2013 02:47 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> >> Indeed, and also I'd like to know what versions of SDT this support,
> >> and where we can see the technical document of that. As far as I know,
> >> the previous(?) SDT implementation also involves ugly semaphores.
> >> Have that already gone?
> 
> It seems it's not. I see the SDT v3 document still mentions semaphores.

It mentions them, but should normally not be used. They are there for
dtrace (source) compatibility. And you don't have to use them.

Since normally a SDT probe marker is just a NOP it doesn't have any
overhead. But if you want to add complicated arguments that you would
normally not generate in your code, then you might want to add a
semaphore. That way you can have probes with a bit more overhead that
still have zero overhead when not being probed.

Note that if you use the normal DTRACE_PROBE macros no semaphore will be
inserted. And you can opt to not support probes that have a semaphore in
perf if you think that is easier (just check the semaphore link-time
address for the probe, it should normally be zero). Just warn: "No way I
am going to probe something that might have a little extra overhead! I
am no debugger..." :)

> > This link shows an example of marker probing with Systemtap:
> > https://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/AddingUserSpaceProbingToApps
> 
> I think the link below would be more helpful for us :)
> 
> http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/UserSpaceProbeImplementation

Yes, that should be the canonical description.

Cheers,

Mark

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-04  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-03  7:36 Hemant Kumar Shaw
2013-09-03  7:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] Support to perf to probe on SDT markers: Hemant Kumar
2013-09-03  9:14   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04  7:00   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-04  8:10     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 18:00       ` Hemant
2013-09-04 17:50     ` Hemant
2013-09-03  7:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] SDT markers listing by perf Hemant Kumar
2013-09-03  8:19   ` Hemant
2013-09-04  6:43     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-04 17:40       ` Hemant
2013-09-04  6:42   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-04  8:02     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 17:59       ` Hemant
2013-09-15 11:28       ` Hemant
2013-09-25  4:37         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-25  6:04           ` Hemant
2013-09-25  8:45             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 17:38     ` Hemant
2013-09-06  6:38       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-06  8:41         ` Hemant
2013-09-04  7:22   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 17:52     ` Hemant
2013-09-03  8:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Perf support to SDT markers Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03  9:17   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-03 13:23     ` Hemant
2013-09-03 14:22       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 15:12         ` Mark Wielaard
2013-09-03 19:24           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 15:24         ` Hemant
2013-09-04  6:49       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-04  8:23         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04  8:26         ` Mark Wielaard [this message]
2013-09-04  8:39           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 18:08             ` Hemant
2013-09-05  4:59               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-09-04 18:12           ` Hemant
2013-09-04 18:52             ` Mark Wielaard
2013-09-04 20:39               ` Hemant
2013-09-04 17:45         ` Hemant
2013-09-04  6:09 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-04 17:08   ` Hemant
2013-09-04 23:41 ` Andi Kleen

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