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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <hiramatu@sdl.hitachi.co.jp>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
	systemtap@sources.redhat.com, sugita@sdl.hitachi.co.jp,
	Satoshi Oshima <soshima@redhat.com>,
	michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca
Subject: Re: Hitachi djprobe mechanism
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050729155025.GA357@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73d5p2gi7o.fsf@bragg.suse.de>

* Andi Kleen (ak@suse.de) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org> writes:
> > 
> > And as the jmp instruction is 5 bytes, there seems to be no hope to find an
> > atomic operation that will write that.
> 
> Any 64bit architecture can write 8 bytes mostly atomically (at least towards
> readers) and many 32bit architectures (like newer x86 with cmpxchg or sse) 
> can too.
> 
> An 8 byte read-modify-store is not protected against multiple writers,
> but that is no problem for probes which can protect against that
> with a different lock.
> 
> x86 could actually do it atomically even for writers with cmpxchg8.
> 
> -Andi
> 

It's probably a small bit of understanding of cmpxch I am missing here, but what
would happen if :

CPU A                                 CPU B
read first byte of jmp instruction

                                      lock; cmpxch of the 2 bytes of the jmp
                                      instruction.
                                      
read the second byte of jmp
instruction

As I see it, the write in memory is atomic, but not the instruction fetching. In
that case, the reader would see an inconsistent last jmp address byte.

cmpxch seems ok if the reader does read the 64 bits more than once to check if
it has changed behind it. Or is there a special lock prefix to a 64 bits read
operation I am not aware of ? (on 32 bits arch)


Mathieu


OpenPGP public key:              http://krystal.dyndns.org:8080/key/compudj.gpg
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-29 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-27 21:05 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-07-28  1:51 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28  2:10   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28 16:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2005-07-28 16:28       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28 17:36         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]           ` <20050728110717.A30199@unix-os.sc.intel.com>
2005-07-28 18:33             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <20050728133456.A32210@unix-os.sc.intel.com>
2005-07-28 23:53                 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-29  5:59                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  7:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29  8:44                     ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-29  8:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29 15:51                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2005-07-30 15:55                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-30 16:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-31 22:03                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-31 23:11                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-01 15:37                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-01  8:44                             ` Richard J Moore
2005-08-01 13:21                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-01 19:57                               ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-01 20:21                                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 22:12                                   ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-01 22:54                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-02 18:42                                       ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-03 14:50                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-04  1:19                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-04  3:31                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-02  9:42                                   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 15:09                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-10-07 15:35                                     ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-08 18:33                                       ` mathieu lacage
2005-10-08 21:59                                         ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-08 23:24                                           ` Roland McGrath
2005-10-22 11:49                                             ` mathieu lacage
2005-10-22 22:09                                               ` Roland McGrath
2005-10-24  6:33                                                 ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-10-24 19:48                                                   ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]                                             ` <43621B0D.70204@sophia.inria.fr>
2005-11-07 10:04                                               ` mathieu lacage
2005-11-07 10:06                                                 ` mathieu lacage
2005-11-08  9:49                                             ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-09 16:47                                           ` mathieu lacage
2005-08-02 15:33                                   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 15:36                                     ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 16:12                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-02 16:30                                       ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 16:46                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-04 17:09                                         ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-03 14:46                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29 16:06                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-07-29 18:24                     ` sugita
2005-07-28 18:13       ` Richard J Moore
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-01 22:49 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 23:05 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 23:18   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 22:41 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-02  3:21 ` Roland McGrath
2005-08-02  3:35   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 20:46 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 21:08 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 16:14 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 20:31 ` Roland McGrath
2005-08-04  0:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-04 10:01     ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 16:25       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-05 16:39         ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-01 15:50 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  0:18 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-07-29  1:48 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-29  3:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  3:47     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-29  1:53 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-08-01  9:02   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-01 13:18     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-02  7:07       ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-07-22 18:09 Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-07-21 22:32 Richard J Moore
2005-07-21 22:52 ` Roland McGrath
2005-07-22  2:52   ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-26  7:14   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2005-07-26  7:53     ` Roland McGrath
2005-07-27 13:02       ` Masami Hiramatsu

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