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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Cc: systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: thoughts [re LTT]
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050926181844.GC27733@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050926174442.GB31126@Krystal>

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Hi -

On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 01:44:42PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> [...]  We have a kernel tracer (LTTng) and a trace viewer (LTTV)
> which are based on static kernel instrumentation.  One of the main
> advantages of the LTTng tracing code is that it is fast. It seems to
> be a downside of SystemTAP.

Static instrumentation of course allows one to avoid the breakpoint
fault of kprobes.  At some point, we too will support static
instrumentation, with our own variant and/or attaching to
LTT/LKST/etc. hooks.

> We use a code generator that takes an event description to generate
> the tracing code that can be inserted through module loading.

This is quite clever, but addresses a different clientele.  LTT-type
techniques may be sufficient iff:

 - one may patch one's kernel with the tracing infrastructure
 - the set of trace event points are all hard-coded
 - the data made available at those points are all hard-coded
 - the computation performed upon those data/events is limited to
   little besides filtering / printing

I suspect we can get the best of both worlds over time.

- FChE

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-26 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-20 15:50 next steps Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-21 15:46 ` Richard J Moore
2005-09-21 20:56   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-21 23:33     ` Richard J Moore
2005-09-29 13:00       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2005-09-21 21:24 ` Martin Hunt
2005-09-21 23:58   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-26 15:12   ` Jose R. Santos
2005-09-26 15:36     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-26 16:26       ` Jose R. Santos
2005-09-26 16:56         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-26 21:34       ` Jose R. Santos
2005-09-26 22:13         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-09-27 15:30           ` Jose R. Santos
2005-09-26 17:44     ` thoughts Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-09-26 18:19       ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2005-09-26 18:30         ` thoughts [re LTT] Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-09-26 19:45         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-09-29 16:44       ` thoughts Jose R. Santos

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