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From: Prasanna S Panchamukhi <prasanna@in.ibm.com>
To: Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>
Cc: systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: thoughts about exception-handling requirements for kprobes
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060320091825.GB8662@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF7089112C.EAE9E722-ON80257137.002FB37F-80257137.002FF94A@uk.ibm.com>

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 08:44:00AM +0000, Richard J Moore wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> systemtap-owner@sourceware.org wrote on 19/03/2006 17:24:54:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 01:50:57PM -0800, Keshavamurthy Anil S wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:57:18AM -0800, Richard J Moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > >    I've been thinking about the need for exception-handling and how
> the
> > > >    current implementation has become a little muddled.
> > >
> > > Here is my thinking on this kprobe fault handling...
> > > Ideally we want the ability to recover from all
> > > the page faults happening from either pre-handler
> > > or happening from post-handler transparently in the
> > > same way as the normal kernel would recover from
> > > do_page_fault() function. In order for this to happen,
> > > I think we should not be calling pre-handler/post-handler
> > > by disabling preempt which is a major design change.
> > > Also in the current code if fixup_exception() fails to
> > > fixup the exception then falling back on the normal
> > > do_page_fault() is a bad thing with preempt disabled.
> > >
> > > I was thinking on this issue for the past several days
> > > and I believe that currently we are disabling preempt
> > > before calling pre/post handler, because we don;t
> > > want the process to get migrated to different CPU
> > > and we don't want another process to be scheduled
> > > while we are servicing kprobe as the newly scheduled
> > > process might trigger another probe and we don;t
> > > have space to save the kprobe control block(kprobe_ctlbk)
> > > info, because we save kprobe_ctlbk in the per cpu structure.
> > >
> > > If we move this saving kprobe_ctlbk to task struct then
> > > I think we will have the ability to call pre/post-handler
> > > without having to disable preempt and their by any faults
> > > happening from either pre/post handler can recover transparently
> > > in the same way as the normal kernel would recover.
> > >
> >
> > Kprobes user-specified pre/post handler are called within
> > the interrupt context and if we allow page faults while within
> 
> Clarify what you mean by "allow"
> 
> > user-specified pre/post handler, then it might sleep.
> 
> Clarify what you mean by "it"
> 

In simple words, system do_page_fault() can sleep and if we
allow page faults while within user-specified kprobes pre/post
handler, then the pre/post handler might sleep. So can the
user-specifed kprobes per/post handler sleep while within
interrupt context?

Thanks
Prasanna
-- 
Prasanna S Panchamukhi
Linux Technology Center
India Software Labs, IBM Bangalore
Email: prasanna@in.ibm.com
Ph: 91-80-51776329

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-20  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-09 16:00 Richard J Moore
2006-03-10  3:46 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-03-17 21:51 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-03-19 17:24   ` Prasanna S Panchamukhi
2006-03-20  8:47     ` Richard J Moore
2006-03-20  9:18       ` Prasanna S Panchamukhi [this message]
2006-03-20 14:33         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-03-20  9:43       ` Richard J Moore
2006-03-20 18:40     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-03-21  0:34       ` Richard J Moore
2006-03-21  0:53         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-03-21  5:23       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2006-03-21  9:41       ` Prasanna S Panchamukhi
2006-03-21 22:46         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-03-22  2:37           ` Frank Ch. Eigler

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