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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
		Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
		Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	ltt-dev@shafik.org, 	systemtap@sources.redhat.com,
	Douglas Niehaus <niehaus@eecs.ku.edu>,
		"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
		Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] local_t : Documentation - update
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070109234511.GB7798@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070109232155.GA25387@Krystal>

Hi!

> > AFAICT this fails to mention... Is local_t as big as int? As big as
> > long? Or perhaps smaller because high bits may be needed for locking?
> 
> Hi Pavel,
> 
> Here is an update that adds the information you mentionned in this reply and the
> one to Andrew. Thanks for the comments.
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> 
> index dfeec94..bd854b3 100644
> --- a/Documentation/local_ops.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/local_ops.txt
> @@ -22,6 +22,13 @@ require disabling interrupts to protect from interrupt handlers and it permits
>  coherent counters in NMI handlers. It is especially useful for tracing purposes
>  and for various performance monitoring counters.
>  
> +Local atomic operations only guarantee variable modification atomicity wrt the
> +CPU which owns the data. Therefore, care must taken to make sure that only one
> +CPU writes to the local_t data. This is done by using per cpu data and making
> +sure that we modify it from within a preemption safe context. It is however
> +permitted to read local_t data from any CPU : it will then appear to be written
> +out of order wrt other memory writes on the owner CPU.

So it is "one cpu may write, other cpus may read", and as big as
long. Are you sure obscure architectures (sparc?) can implement this
in useful way? ... maybe yes, unless obscure architecture exists where
second other cpu can see garbage data when first cpu writes into long
...?


								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-09 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-21  0:22 [PATCH 0/10] local_t : adding and standardising atomic primitives Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:22 ` [PATCH 1/10] local_t : architecture agnostic Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:24 ` [PATCH 2/10] local_t : alpha Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:25 ` [PATCH 3/10] local_t : i386 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21 19:47   ` [Ltt-dev] [PATCH 3/10] local_t : i386, local_add_return fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:26 ` [PATCH 4/10] local_t : ia64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:27 ` [PATCH 6/10] local_t : parisc Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:27 ` [PATCH 5/10] local_t : ia64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21 18:56   ` [Ltt-dev] [PATCH 5/10] local_t : MIPS Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:28 ` [PATCH 7/10] local_t : powerpc Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21 14:04   ` [Ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-24 10:00   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-01-24 10:43     ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-01-24 17:05     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:29 ` [PATCH 8/10] local_t : s390 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  0:41 ` [PATCH 9/10] local_t : sparc64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21  3:01 ` [PATCH 10/10] local_t : x86_64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-21 19:55   ` [Ltt-dev] [PATCH 10/10] local_t : x86_64 : local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-12-26 19:48 ` [PATCH 0/10] local_t : adding and standardising atomic primitives Pavel Machek
2007-01-09  3:20   ` [PATCH] local_t : Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-09 21:02     ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 22:11       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-09 22:12         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 22:38       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-09 22:41     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-09 23:27       ` [PATCH] local_t : Documentation - update Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-09 23:45         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-01-10  0:39           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-10  1:06             ` [Ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers

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